Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

[BigGreenSpacehopper]

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

So to be clear you don't think the Chancellor and his wife should pay the same proportion of their income in tax as a fairly typical middle income couple?

So to be clear you are still trying the motte and baily approach and pretend you understand Non dom status?

Gordon Brown wasn’t wealthy. His father was a clergy man. Interestingly he doesn’t claim his pension from being PM and most of the money he’s earned in the last 12 years has gone to charity.

@Blossomtoes

I wonder who is leaking all this now

It’s got Cummings’ fingerprints all over it.

Very unlikely to be Cummings imo

Do you think it’s come from No 10 @StormzyinaTCup?

Very unlikely to be Cummings imo

Agree, this is from no10.

I think she has done nothing illegal. She is not a public figure and we should leave her alone. She is entitled to make her own decisions and her dh is not responsible for them.

Gordon Brown wasn’t wealthy.

Look at the left going down the sins of the father route...

The irony is she has paid it now, it's opened a flood gate that those who where attacking her showed little knowledge of non dom status (not something unique to the UK) and how double taxation is a nationalistic policy, it will back fire

@Villagewaspbyke

I think she has done nothing illegal. She is not a public figure and we should leave her alone. She is entitled to make her own decisions and her dh is not responsible for them.

Caesar’s wife must be above suspicion.

Figmentofmyimagination
I wonder who is leaking all this now.

Whoever it is will have sat on it for months.

Well done them, but our politics does feel a bit seedy. We are all so open to manipulation - as to who to hate and when.

I agree. I felt the same about the parties. Journalists claiming they didn’t know

Easy to blame Cummings but I think BoJO is removing his main competitor. Weren't the party gate photos said to have been taken from the Chancellors offices? All very sleazy

Do you think it’s come from No 10 @StormzyinaTCup?

Doesn't make much sense if it was. If I was to have a wee flutter i would say it was a smear from an opposition party. I see no benefit for any Tory to leak this when Boris has just scored many brownie points (and votes) with a good speech pointing out basic scientific facts which make Kier Starmer look a complete tool.

I wonder who is leaking all this now

It's not a leak from the right/cummings, it's an attack 'gotcha' piece from the left, it didn't bubble up from the torygraph etc nor from cummings blog.

This narrative of it being a leak from the 'right' is trying to adjust now she has said fuck you I will pay it, it's being seen across all social media and private chanels.

@Villagewaspbyke

I think she has done nothing illegal. She is not a public figure and we should leave her alone. She is entitled to make her own decisions and her dh is not responsible for them.

She is married to the Chancellor, they will both benefit from arrangements which help her pay less tax. He determines how much tax we pay. It may not be legal but it’s not right, and certainly not in this economy.

Allies of the Chancellor have pointed the finger at Number 10 for seeking to undermine Mr Sunak given he is tipped as a potential successor should Boris Johnson be forced out

From today’s Telegraph. If it had come from the left, they’d have been the first to say so.

@Blossomtoes

Allies of the Chancellor have pointed the finger at Number 10 for seeking to undermine Mr Sunak given he is tipped as a potential successor should Boris Johnson be forced out

From today’s Telegraph. If it had come from the left, they’d have been the first to say so.

I believe Sunak himself has said he thinks it's a Labour smear. Labour wouldn't admit to it until they saw how it played out. It's back fired somewhat so I expect they will keep quiet.

I did mention on another thread after Boris Johnson had made his speech about Women that it will be interesting to see what Labour do next. I think we have probably just seen it. Rather than look at their own policies on the trans issue they have gone for smear of the opposition. Just my opinion obvs.

@jgw1 you do realise that national debts of various countries shot up due to the pandemic, right?

From the IMF:

"As countries were hit by the pandemic, global debt rose to $226 trillion, or 256 percent of GDP in 2020. Borrowing by governments accounted for slightly more than half of this increase, as global public debt jumped by 20 percent. The share of public debt in global debt reached new highs not seen in more than 50 years, reflecting a large cumulative increase since the global financial crisis. Private debt rose by 10 percent in 2020, partly reflecting the support of central banks and government. The rise in debt varied significantly across countries given very unequal capacity of governments and central banks to support households and businesses during the pandemic and a deep economic recession."

China alone accounts for 26% of the global debt surge.All advanced economies saw massive increases in debt which the IMF acknowledged was necessary:

"The large increase in debt was justified by the need to protect people’s lives, preserve jobs, and avoid a wave of bankruptcies. If governments had not taken action, the social and economic consequences would have been devastating."

By your logic, every single person who's in charge of national budgets in advanced economies must "not be very good at it".

Not so.

The problem is a very complex one to deal with.

@DownNative if the Chancellor is so good at handling large sums of money why has so much been wasted in the passed two years?
I think of Track and Trace and imaginary PPE for example

Pretty sure the Chancellor wasn’t responsible for either of those. Wasn’t that mainly Hancock?

I think that many posters here also aren't realising that quite a lot of work has to go into maintaining non dom status. You don't get to tick a box - you have ensure you spend under 180 nights a year in the UK, and more. Having a UK chancellor, and likely future Prime Minister candidate, married to someone who has chosen to remain a primary resident as well as citizen and major business owner in a country that has interests often not aligned to ours (note for example India's continuing commercial ties with Russia) is one hundred percent a conflict of interest.
Even without the geopolitics angle - he's the one administering the often controversial non dom taxation scheme, while his family benefits from it to the tune of tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars, if inheritance tax advantages are included. Again, HUGE conflict of interest.

I don’t see how reporting facts can be described as smearing. They know it makes them look bad and they are pissed off the truth has come out.

Everyone has said he declared her tax status? so what was their to leak?

Doubtful its Labour but didn't no11 take a picture of BJ having drinks, the camera angle suggests this, so maybe BJ getting revenge, just in time for any new FPN coming BJ's way and to show his back benchers, Boris has no rivals.....

But whoever did it, its worked, got rid of Sunak as a potential PM at the cost of losing a few votes...

I do not believe for a second that Johnson hadn't been told about her non dom status and about his green card. I can believe that, when it suited him, Johnson chose to ignore it.

I think that there is definitely a smear campaign against Sunak- and I think it is definitely coming from high up in the Conservative party.

That said, the Chancellor and those that appoint him, should ensure that his own, and his close family's, financial affairs are without blemish. That should actually apply to all of the Cabinet. But wasn't David Cameron's father involved in something dodgy - and I'm sure if we had ever seen the unredacted Russia report there would be plenty of other dodgy goings on.

[quote Wnkingawalrus]@DownNative if the Chancellor is so good at handling large sums of money why has so much been wasted in the passed two years?
I think of Track and Trace and imaginary PPE for example

Pretty sure the Chancellor wasn’t responsible for either of those. Wasn’t that mainly Hancock?[/quote]
....signed off by Sunak.

@Blossomtoes

Gordon Brown wasn’t wealthy. His father was a clergy man. Interestingly he doesn’t claim his pension from being PM and most of the money he’s earned in the last 12 years has gone to charity.

Gordon Brown IS a wealthy man to the point where he can give £1.37 million away. He's worth millions and certainly wasn't short of money when he was Chancellor.

Chancellors ARE rich people in just about every country in the world.

From today’s Telegraph. If it had come from the left, they’d have been the first to say so.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/akshata-murty-who-is-rishi-sunak-wife

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas

To try and pretend this has come from the right is trying to shift focus of the initial not paying tax non dom argument whilst not understanding the status and unironically championing nationalistic policies.

It wasn't the tories or right that made this the go to outrage point, the OP is an example of this, the fact is she has now paid it, it's going to back fire.

It's going to be a case of a lot of mental gymnastics played out over this situation, luckily on MN users can name change.

@DownNative

the wealth of Sunak is irrelevant, his wife, by doing a u-turn, is proving that the Sunaks live in another world & that his political judgement is very poor.

Just another example that the very wealthy think taxes are for the "little people"
This is a tax loophole that isn't available to you or i.