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Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol

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MatthewJTaylor · 07/04/2022 21:28

From May 5th to May 8th 2022, the Tobacco Factory Theatres in Bristol is having performances of "The Family Sex Show".
This show is aimed at children 5 years old and up.
The performers involved get naked.
The discussion with the children is on sex, sexuality and sexual pleasure.

I cannot imagine brining a 5 year old child to a theatre where people will to to her/him about sex and show their naked bodies to her/him.

Am I the crazy one?

Sources:
The Family Sex Show website
Listing at The Tobacco Factory Theatres

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EvilKinevil · 08/04/2022 09:26

I thought the definition of feminism was interesting, if unrecognisable:
“ Feminism
activism which works towards people of all genders being equal politically, economically and socially.
Feminism is a social movement that fights for the equality of all people. Feminists believe that people of all and no genders are equal and should be treated as such. It is also inclusive of all races, religions, cultures, ages etc. You do not have to be a woman to be a feminist.”.

PrelateChuckles · 08/04/2022 09:27

@jellymaker

I would suggest that as many of us as possible write to the Bristol safeguarding board expressing our concern. Link here bristolsafeguarding.org/contact-us/
Reposting this. I don't know much about the org but would be worth contacting them.
DoorWasAJar · 08/04/2022 09:28

@Pluvia Actually IIRC, the DWP did get in trouble for having ads for escorting at the Job Centre some years ago ☹️

Unfortunately I had to be a sex ‘worker’ and I can guarantee it’s not a subject for 5 year olds. How freaking sinister, I just don’t understand what planet they’re on. I have CPTSD from my prostitution ‘career’, it’s not something to normalise, where is the dignity? Women shouldn’t be put in this position, just because of mental health problems or undiagnosed autism and adhd, but they are, and the media glamourised it as an empowering thing and I fell for it. Now they’re trying to push it on actual children 😞

DoorWasAJar · 08/04/2022 09:29

@PrelateChuckles @jellymaker

Thank you for the link!

theemperorhasnoclothes · 08/04/2022 09:29

I love how they're trying very hard to remove the women from feminism.

I think feminism is about fighting for rights for women and girls: a sex based class.

Gender is an entirely different thing. Gender wasn't actually even a thing when feminism started so it can't be about gender.

DoorWasAJar · 08/04/2022 09:31

@ResisterRex Can we raise awareness? Judith Reisman passed away, sadly. Perhaps we can organise and continue her work and campaign against this garbage.

DrBlackbird · 08/04/2022 09:32

sex education is important. But it MUST be age appropriate

This with bells on. The fact that the name of the show is the Family Sex Show is ridiculously misleading.

some people’s identities become subsumed by their sexuality / gender, especially when it’s an area where they feel marginalised

This is what I see happening. The whole focus on pre/teen Identity development is centring around sexuality/gender. So not just x or y interest group but needing to be LGBTQ+ x or y interest group. Badges, banners, clothing, school groups, constantly signalling sexuality.

Whilst it is great that young gay teens can have affirmation with positive role models, this is seemingly involving into as if there can be no other aspects of identity. But sex, sexuality, and sexual development is only one part of figuring out who you are.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 08/04/2022 09:35

I work in a primary school and if a child came into school and started talking about how at the weekend they went to a show where grown ups took all their their clothes off and they all sang a song about touching their willies, I would be required to treat that as a disclosure of sexual abuse and take it further as required. Not really what you want from your 'educational theatre show' is it?

'NSPCC approved' my absolute arse (although after Rubber Man, who knows.....)

TabithaHazel · 08/04/2022 09:35

Who came up with the 5+ age limit? Someone there must have thought this was a good idea as opposed to say a 13+ age limit, which is the worrying thing in itself. Is there a body that oversees age limits in theatres like there is for films?

FOJN · 08/04/2022 09:36

"The limits we set for ourselves and other people, which indicate what we find comfortable and uncomfortable"

This is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Yes it is. The NSPCC don't help because they advise children to tell someone if someone else's behaviour worries it upsets them. If you combine the normalisation of sexual talk and behaviour with the manipulative skills of a child abuser then the child may not be worried or upset to begin with but may be too ashamed later to raise the alarm.

Young children need clear instruction on boundaries and what to do if they are breeched, not guidance on how to exercise their own judgement. An abuser will exploit that kind of advice.

Rosscameasdoody · 08/04/2022 09:37

@Lubeyboobyalt

YABU and presumptuous and judgey

Slightly alarmed and curious I just went and read more, and all their faq's thoroughly and have no problem with it at all. Looks like a great mission.

Ah, so you’re the one who voted YABU !! The only ‘great mission’ is for those pushing this agenda. In what world is adult strangers stripping naked in front of five year olds acceptable ? IMO this is once again the agenda of the minority being pushed onto the rest of us - and what better way than to ‘start em young’. Any objection or application of common sense is met with accusations of being phobic in various ways and, yes, ‘judgey’. The hope is that in the end, those of us who have concerns are bullied into silence.
unwashedanddazed · 08/04/2022 09:38

I hope they sell out and that the audience is entirely made up of old men in grubby rain coats. Wonder how many of the actors would feel happy to get completely naked then?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/04/2022 09:38

I can't wait until the media get hold of this one!

FOJN · 08/04/2022 09:39

I love how they're trying very hard to remove the women from feminism.

Erasing women or discrediting them as hysterical and uptight is all part of breaking down boundaries. We are the vipers who will stand in the way of people intent on harming children. It's a process which has been going on for a few years.

MarshmallowSwede · 08/04/2022 09:40

It is grooming. They can flower up the words all they want.

It’s grooming. It’s inappropriate and it needs to stop.

Anything to ruin the innocence of a child. It’s something pedophiles cheerlead and applaud. Once you have children thinking that this is normal then you are basically making it easier for predators to have the grooming done for them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/04/2022 09:41

I love how they're trying very hard to remove the women from feminism.

I think feminism is about fighting for rights for women and girls: a sex based class.

Their version is the promotion of mostly male sexual rights. It isn't anything worthy of the name of feminism.

Liveliferun · 08/04/2022 09:42

This is f*cked up.
What can we do to complain?
Their twitter feed has lots of people pointing out how sinister this is, but they still seem to be storming ahead.
In Plain Sight.
Should we complain to the venues instead?

Giveaschitt · 08/04/2022 09:43

The (presumably accidental) leaving in of lorem ipsum in this quote suggests they're just making them up...

Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol
Crikeyalmighty · 08/04/2022 09:43

We actually moved from Bristol and went to Bath. My son developed a drug habit at 6th form in quite a posh state school in Bristol — and had far too many friends whose parents sat around not really working and getting stoned. We are a pretty liberal couple to be honest but even we drew the line at the amount of ‘right on’ shit that was going on —yet in a city that was bloody filthy , full of damp grotty houses and had no decent public transport. We moved there as it was my Hs home city and at the time more affordable than Oxford where we lived but I was glad to get away — I know lots of people love it but we were glad to get away and this show is indicative and I’m no Tory either by the way. Those who always fancy it- don’t be fooled by a nice sunny day round the docks , has a real nasty under belly .

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/04/2022 09:43

I love how they're trying very hard to remove the women from feminism

It's pretty amazing - when BLM was critiqued for being exclusionary and it was said that 'all lives matter' it was immediately, rightly, called out as racist. But 'feminism' cannot be about women, it has to be about 'all genders'. They still expect the sex with the cunts to do the actual shit work in the struggle though.

mam0918 · 08/04/2022 09:43

So it sounds like a live performance version of the body book by Claire Rayner?

Which has been the gold standard for pre-school education since I was a child.

I fail to see how its grooming and misuse of that word is really dangerous.

To 'groom' you have to develop an intimate relationship with the child - these people don't know these children, they aren't being invited to lunch, having one on one time, and staying in contact it's no more grooming than the pantomime dame in the Xmas play (who likely tells far more age inappropriate sexual innuedo jokes).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/04/2022 09:44

Erasing women or discrediting them as hysterical and uptight is all part of breaking down boundaries. We are the vipers who will stand in the way of people intent on harming children. It's a process which has been going on for a few years.

Exactly. It's mostly women who are standing in the way of queer theory. Women are of course also some of the worst pushers of it. But they won't get the most benefit, it's male centric.

Snowflakes1122 · 08/04/2022 09:45

I question any parent wanting to take their child to this and any actor wanting to get on stage naked in front of children and discuss sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/04/2022 09:45

So do I.

Rosscameasdoody · 08/04/2022 09:45

[quote PrelateChuckles]That clitoris song isn't in the show, it's in the podcast for older teens.
It says so in this article which I have linked several times in the thread. It doesn't really help any case for people to post misinformation - the info we DO have is bad enough!

"Alongside the performance, the team have created a podcast for older audiences, this time with the negative and messy bits included. As well as offcuts from the show – such as a reckoning with ableist language and an operatic song about the clitoris – it includes longer, more in-depth discussions about ideas of queerness, pleasure, friendships, and what they all mean to us as individuals."

www.theguardian.com/stage/2022/mar/08/and-now-for-a-song-about-the-clitoris-the-joy-of-sex-education[/quote]
Understand what you’re saying but frankly the sentence ‘That Clitoris song isn’t in the show, it’s in the podcast for older teens’ also fills me with horror. How is that any better ? Why are we subjecting adolescents to this shit ?

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