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Price hikes. Why is there nit rioting in the streets?

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NameChangeObvsx1 · 04/04/2022 01:42

My electric has risen 10p overnight for actual usage, yet a massive 14p for the daily standing charge. So even if I used no electricity I’m spending 40p a day to just say I have electric. Even if I use none and don’t have heating, lighting or cook. And this will be worse on prepay.

Why is the government doing fuck all and where are the headlines of rioting in the street!.

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elbea · 04/04/2022 21:51

@Snugglepumpkin the standing charge has increased because we are all paying to protect the money of those with suppliers who went bust. £68 of the £75 average increase goes to covering the customers whose firms went bust.

SleeplessInEngland · 04/04/2022 21:56

I’d settle for people seeing all this and just not voting tory.

Crazier things have happened, right?

NameChangeObvsx1 · 05/04/2022 01:35

As some have noted, my ‘rioting in the streets’ comment was tongue in cheek. However, 40-50p standing charge per day, just for having an electric ‘function’ without being able to use it? Fucking ridiculous and well worth a riot.

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BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger · 05/04/2022 01:45

A Tory, an average worker and an immigrant are sat at a table with 100 biscuits. The Tory takes 98 of them, then says to the average worker,

"Watch out mate, that guy is about to steal your biscuit."

MangyInseam · 05/04/2022 02:01

What would rioting do? There are price increases like this everywhere, it's not a UK phenomena. There is massive inflation because of all kinds of other problems, only one of them being energy issues.

MangyInseam · 05/04/2022 02:07

@Polyanthus2

All that's happening right now is the bill dropping for the last few decades of ruinous climate policy and reliance on globalism for production. CoVid exposed how weak the world was to disruption to our supply chains. This has caused worldwide problems with supply and cost of materials, the effects of which are only just starting to be felt, and it's gonna get worse.

Yeah, but we all want/ wanted lots of stuff - new cars, new kitchens, umpteen clothes outfits, the latest handbag, foreign holidays, even fancy foods out of season and we wanted it as cheaply as possible.
Now we are going to have to pay nearer the true value.

You are sort of ranting that it's everyone else's fault - it's our fault. As the cheapest was sought the cost of shipping it etc was ignored.

I think the point was that it's not about teh government being wrong, it's about people wanting something for nothing. We're all hurting to some degree, but there is a sense in which demanding why the government doesn't fix it is just more of the same. Similarly with covid in a way - there is this crazy idea that no matter what the cost somehow the government has to do something to fix it. Well, in the end we pay that cost and we're paying it now. Complaining about them doing what we vote for isn't going to fix it, they can't change reality.
elbea · 05/04/2022 14:47

@NameChangeObvsx1 I dont you understand the standing charge though, it isn’t all going to what you perceive as grabby energy firms. 90% of the increase to cover all of the energy firms going bankrupt. Millions of people would have lost their money otherwise. It also covers the cost of the Warm Home Discount which is in higher demand as well.

Suggesting rioting is such a silly thing, even as a joke, if you haven’t bothered to understand why it’s happened.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 05/04/2022 15:02

[quote elbea]@NameChangeObvsx1 I dont you understand the standing charge though, it isn’t all going to what you perceive as grabby energy firms. 90% of the increase to cover all of the energy firms going bankrupt. Millions of people would have lost their money otherwise. It also covers the cost of the Warm Home Discount which is in higher demand as well.

Suggesting rioting is such a silly thing, even as a joke, if you haven’t bothered to understand why it’s happened.[/quote]
You are correct, the massive standing charge increase is the price we all have to pay to subsidise the Tory's pretend competitive market in which all their mates trousered fat salaries and bonuses and then when ti went wrong we all had to pay for the bail outs. Capitalism and "free" markets when it's going well, communism when it fails.

Fifteentoes · 05/04/2022 15:20

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

A general strike is what is needed. It would bring the government to its knees in no time. Then you'd need mass protests, then a general election and hold the next government to account.
Intelligence, skepticism, historical & political awareness and the ability to see what's actually happening, how the ruling class actually think, what they're doing and how they're doing it, is what's needed.

A general strike may well be one outcome of that.

GreenLunchBox · 05/04/2022 15:23

@Im2022

I wouldn’t riot myself but I’d like others to. Am I allowed to say that?
Haha, same 🤣
moonbedazzled · 05/04/2022 16:21

@dontcallmelen

No one has to riot, demonstrate/March/write/email MP’s/ local conservative associations/MSM/local radio or newspapers lots of ways we could start to get our concerns heard.
I agree. No rioting, just a strongly written letter.
emuloc · 05/04/2022 16:29

@BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger

A Tory, an average worker and an immigrant are sat at a table with 100 biscuits. The Tory takes 98 of them, then says to the average worker,

"Watch out mate, that guy is about to steal your biscuit."

Yes, they are masters of deflection. Unfortunately too many people are willing to vote for them.
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