Price hikes. Why is there nit rioting in the streets?

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My electric has risen 10p overnight for actual usage, yet a massive 14p for the daily standing charge. So even if I used no electricity I’m spending 40p a day to just say I have electric. Even if I use none and don’t have heating, lighting or cook. And this will be worse on prepay.

Why is the government doing fuck all and where are the headlines of rioting in the street!.

@vickyc90

The prices have partially risen because of the situation in Ukraine. How can anyone riot against paying more when you look at what the Russians have done to the villages. To be honest I would take another rise to know we aren't using any Russian gas or oil

I agree, but then I can afford it.

I agree the hike to standing charges is appalling.

This is happening across Europe.

How is rioting going to help a global situation?

Are all the governments useless?

@Swayingpalmtrees

You can have a riot of one op!

It shows a distinct lack of understanding if you think this was a decision made by this country, people are seeing bills rocketing globally.

Have you missed the war?
Missed the pandemic?
Haven't you read that some parts of China are at a standstill due to a huge outbreak?

Please educate yourself.

Agree with this

Plus rioting is destruction to peoples communities - where will you start op?

@maddening

My friend mentioned her standing charge had increased also, regardless of the cost of using the electricity or gas I don't understand how they can increase the standing charge as they have not improved the mode of supply or incurred extra expense, how are they justifying that?

They justify it by saying they have increased the daily charge is because it’s now more expensive to provide the service. Their costs have gone up too.

The way I see it rioting would just cost tax payers more as they’d have to fund the clean up and as for it putting pressure on the government to do something… I can only laugh out loud if you think riots or the general publics poor opinion would succeed where personal public shaming, media evidence of bare faced lying/breaking the law and police/parliament investigations have failed. I’m all for solutions but the only one is to vote them out but then who do you vote for??!

@notwhatineednow

Rioting stopped the poll tax.

As well as rioting, there's also direct action and protest.

These have achieved an awful lot in the past.

We currently have a parasitic government in power who are asset stripping the country and leeching off us all so that they can award lucrative contracts to their mates, and reorganise this country so the ultra rich can use it - and us - to siphon off more money.

They are blatant about doing this and will carry on until we, the people, stop them. That is the reality.

That could be through voting at a general election or through protest.

Are you aware this government is currently trying to outlaw various kinds of protest. Why do you think that might be?

If we're going to vote them out, then people need to be prepared to stop voting for whoever Murdoch tells you to, and see past the media manipulation to work out who actually has our best interests at heart.

They aren't going to be voted out anytime soon. People voted Tory because they wanted a Tory government. Others voted Tory because Jeremy Corbyn was such a horrendous prospect. Labour is not a viable alternative. I don't particularly want more of the Conservatives but I would vote for them again just to keep Labout out. The Lib Dems and Greens are a pointless vote.

cost of milk feared to go up by 50%

What good will rioting do ?seriously ?it might allow us to vent but when shops in the area shut down because they can't afford their insurance or to replace looted stock so people living there have to travel further to buy the basics they can afford who benefits ? Damage done has to be repaired by councils , guess which budget is first for the Chop? Social care. Really, engage brain before leaping into action

@vickyc90

The prices have partially risen because of the situation in Ukraine. How can anyone riot against paying more when you look at what the Russians have done to the villages. To be honest I would take another rise to know we aren't using any Russian gas or oil

Completely agree

@MrsLargeEmbodied

cost of milk feared to go up by 50%

Just listening to this - feed, fuel, fertiliser and labour driving it

@vickyc90

The prices have partially risen because of the situation in Ukraine. How can anyone riot against paying more when you look at what the Russians have done to the villages. To be honest I would take another rise to know we aren't using any Russian gas or oil

That's bullshit because this had been on the cards since last Oct? Nov?

Yeah because a load of ordinary mums are really going to take to the streets and start setting fire to cars and looting. Getting arrested is hardly going to help matters.

To be fair we've not had any serious riots for some time. 2010 riots seem soo long ago. I can't see Mumsnet crowd taking to the streets

@elbea

Probably because stamping your feet and smashing things isn’t a great way to garner goodwill. The whole world is suffering from huge inflation and I don’t want to see the government making it worse by putting together a large package, it makes inflation worse.

See the latest ER twats who have now made it impossible to get petrol/diesel in some areas. So intent are they on getting their message across they have lost countless thousands a few days wages, people who are already on the very edge have ben pushed over it by this. We have had a sharp rise in referrals over the weekend, many carers, drivers and others on 0 hours contracts have hit the buffers hard!

Yet ER, in their middle class righteousness (and yes, I do know some of them, the original Stroud contingent), carry on spouting their crap about making The Man hurt!

@malificent7

This is capitalism but apparently it's the best way " because communism worked so well didn't it." No exploration of any alternatives like socialism. And people vote for Tory " coz Corbyn, Starmer, trans issues."

Totally agree.

Anyone voting Tory in a single issue - shame on you. It’ll be more women than men starving and freezing to death as we are statistically poorer. The Tories are literally squeezing blood out of us all. And there is no bloody need for any of it.

Stop voting Tory.

Lol why are so many people in favour of riots in here? Do you understand what a riot is? And that it's different to a protest? The last riots we had around 2010/11? Resulted in many peoples livlihoods damaged beyond repair. What would burning and looting and violence against fellow citizens and the police sent to calm the situation do?

And re the rioting, the French are better at standing up for themselves and their government hasn’t passed on those massive hikes to them.

presumably a protest march is what you mean, rather than an actual riot

1. Where are you leading the way then?
2. What exactly would it achieve?

@MillyMollyMurphy

And re the rioting, the French are better at standing up for themselves and their government hasn’t passed on those massive hikes to them.

Scuse me?

Better at it has consisted of seizing goods from lorries, setting fire to goods, slaughtering hundreds of sheep and dumping them outside government offfices. They didn't hurt their own, they targetted foreign drivers and destroyed thousand of pounds worth of goods and caused untold chaos and hardship to people, businesses outside of France.

The Tories literally squeezing blood out of us.

I have just made an appointment with my local Tory Mp on Saturday week, I am going to make a cut on my little finger and then he is going to squeeze as hard as he can, looking forward to what should be a mutually satisfying experience.

The French are doing better than us grovelling serfs no matter what you say.

www.ft.com/content/f11a62dc-1a71-437f-a7a5-493bc4b1dcda

And here’s how the rest of Europe are dealing with things (for comparison)
www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/31/as-uk-households-feel-pressure-how-are-other-european-countries-tackling-energy-crisis

Differently. The word you are looking for is differently, based upon their own specific circumstances

Who do you think EDF, state owned French energy company, is going to squeeze now it can't pass on costs to French customers?

Germany is halting it's renewable roll out, something the UK has not done and probably now cannot do as the biggest provider of 'turnkey' systems has just had its 1.2 billion Euro German contract halted - UK company employing thousands.

Spain is taking a windfall tax from Spanish providers, one of those companies is a provider here in the UK

All sorts of other issues that make it not quite as simple as many, including Starmer, want to make it out to be!

The knock on effects of the 80s and 90s are coming home to roost. You know, the shit Tatcher did that everyone has recently been re-writing? Denationalising, allowing non UK companies to own our utilities, all that good stuff.

No UK governement could do what some other countries are doing because we don't have the same infrastructure. Again, it isn't as simple as pointing at A N Other country and saying "Why can't we do that?"

there is a war in europe
or had you forgotten
plus covid