Price hikes. Why is there nit rioting in the streets?

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My electric has risen 10p overnight for actual usage, yet a massive 14p for the daily standing charge. So even if I used no electricity I’m spending 40p a day to just say I have electric. Even if I use none and don’t have heating, lighting or cook. And this will be worse on prepay.

Why is the government doing fuck all and where are the headlines of rioting in the street!.

@Bornsloppy

Go on then, you start it off.

Exactly.

MN is full of people complaining about the fact that nobody else rioting.

Why don't you riot?

@00100001

Can't afford the petrol to get there mate.

To be fair to the OP I don’t think she necessarily literally meant riots. I read it as why aren’t people kicking up more of a fuss. And yes one person can but that’s hardly effective.

The prices have partially risen because of the situation in Ukraine. How can anyone riot against paying more when you look at what the Russians have done to the villages. To be honest I would take another rise to know we aren't using any Russian gas or oil

To be fair to the OP I don’t think she necessarily literally meant riots. I read it as why aren’t people kicking up more of a fuss.

Her thread title says 'rioting in the streets'. That's pretty specific. That's what she meant.

Remember Victoria Wood's hilarious comment? "Other countries have marches and protests.....We just go....Tut!"

Rioting stopped the poll tax.

As well as rioting, there's also direct action and protest.

These have achieved an awful lot in the past.

We currently have a parasitic government in power who are asset stripping the country and leeching off us all so that they can award lucrative contracts to their mates, and reorganise this country so the ultra rich can use it - and us - to siphon off more money.

They are blatant about doing this and will carry on until we, the people, stop them. That is the reality.

That could be through voting at a general election or through protest.

Are you aware this government is currently trying to outlaw various kinds of protest. Why do you think that might be?

If we're going to vote them out, then people need to be prepared to stop voting for whoever Murdoch tells you to, and see past the media manipulation to work out who actually has our best interests at heart.

@girlmom21

To be fair to the OP I don’t think she necessarily literally meant riots. I read it as why aren’t people kicking up more of a fuss.

Her thread title says 'rioting in the streets'. That's pretty specific. That's what she meant.

Rioting in the streets is often used to mean general protests rather than actual riots IME.

We’ve seen these ‘why isn’t there rioting in the streets’ posts about Brexit, Johnson proroguing parliament, covid restrictions, climate change and now cost of living. It’s so tired as an argument.

It would achieve nothing besides causing damage, further overstretching police services and potentially hurting people.

Politics — particularly the Tories although not exclusively — has worked quite hard over the last 30 or 40 years to decouple people from politics while claiming to represent the interests of the very people they’re actively disenfranchising. It’s no wonder people don’t bother.

Probably because stamping your feet and smashing things isn’t a great way to garner goodwill. The whole world is suffering from huge inflation and I don’t want to see the government making it worse by putting together a large package, it makes inflation worse.

Although, I believe what's going on does justify actual rioting.

I don't understand why people aren't angrier.

Ok, so figure out in the high street who funds the tory party for a start and stop shopping there. Write to them, saying you won't be shopping there.

I'd love to start a National Boycott.

I think if the lot of us, as a collective, refused to spend a single penny on non essentials/direct debits for a whole month, govt would have to step in.

I'm talking not a single visit to a cafe, bar or restaurant, no cinema, theme parks, day out attractions, no retail shopping other than for food (literally not a single book or shoe or lipstick bought).

We pay our bills, we buy the food we need to eat that month, we put enough fuel in the car to commute to work. That's it.

Sorry I mean pay our bills and direct debits and not pay a penny for anything further

This is global issue, not just in the UK. We are sitting on millions of tons of shale gas which would supply cheap energy to the country for years........but anyone who keeps up with the news knows what happened there!!

One of the reasons there is a shortage is that the environmentalists insisted on doing away with nuclear power. And insisted on installing windfarms (v expensive initially which we are paying for through our bills) which dont' provide enough to replace the coal and gas.

We also closed gas fields/ oil fields as they were expensive and we were going green. Which I don't remember anyone rioting in the streets about.

Unintended consequences. We are to blame .

• Germany went mainly Russian gas - I think they are going to close businesses and ration gas to the public. Where's Mrs Merkel now?

My friend mentioned her standing charge had increased also, regardless of the cost of using the electricity or gas I don't understand how they can increase the standing charge as they have not improved the mode of supply or incurred extra expense, how are they justifying that?

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

I'd love to start a National Boycott.

I think if the lot of us, as a collective, refused to spend a single penny on non essentials/direct debits for a whole month, govt would have to step in.

I'm talking not a single visit to a cafe, bar or restaurant, no cinema, theme parks, day out attractions, no retail shopping other than for food (literally not a single book or shoe or lipstick bought).

We pay our bills, we buy the food we need to eat that month, we put enough fuel in the car to commute to work. That's it.

Surely this will happen anyway as people cut back.

@SerendipityJane

Presumably no rioting because (looks at government) this is what people voted for.

Problem is the alternatives are just as bad or worse. Its a no win situation. There's not a single party worth a vote. There is no easy answer. Rioting wont help.

@notwhatineednow

Rioting stopped the poll tax.

As well as rioting, there's also direct action and protest.

These have achieved an awful lot in the past.

We currently have a parasitic government in power who are asset stripping the country and leeching off us all so that they can award lucrative contracts to their mates, and reorganise this country so the ultra rich can use it - and us - to siphon off more money.

They are blatant about doing this and will carry on until we, the people, stop them. That is the reality.

That could be through voting at a general election or through protest.

Are you aware this government is currently trying to outlaw various kinds of protest. Why do you think that might be?

If we're going to vote them out, then people need to be prepared to stop voting for whoever Murdoch tells you to, and see past the media manipulation to work out who actually has our best interests at heart.

Are you aware this government is currently trying to outlaw various kinds of protest. Why do you think that might be?

Yes indeed they are, do people realise this? Losing the right to protest will be catastrophic. Protesting and rioting are too completely different things. The right to protest must remain.

I remember riots on the streets was during the poll tax protests of the 1980's in Maggie Thatcher's time. That policy was changed soon after with our current council tax system. The affects of the recent price rises will not affect people until the bills start arriving so at the moment we are probably at the head buried in the sand stage.
The question is what can be done. As I understand it the rises are due to circumstances outside the UK so not under UK government control. The government has no money of their own so can only act by sharing ours around via the tax/benefit systems. So if you want to protest, and I can understand why people might, you need to consider first where the extra funds to help with bills can come from before working out the fairest way to distribute them.

No thanks

Does anyone really have the energy? I don't, I'm constantly exhausted.

@malificent7

This is capitalism but apparently it's the best way " because communism worked so well didn't it." No exploration of any alternatives like socialism. And people vote for Tory " coz Corbyn, Starmer, trans issues."

This, this and this!

I won't riot, I hate to see people wreck their own communities, in order to fail to make a point.

Happy to protest/sit in though!

You can have a riot of one op!

It shows a distinct lack of understanding if you think this was a decision made by this country, people are seeing bills rocketing globally.

Have you missed the war?
Missed the pandemic?
Haven't you read that some parts of China are at a standstill due to a huge outbreak?

Please educate yourself.