Are we taking bets yet on when mass civil unrest will begin re. Cost of living?

[UsernameInTheTown]

Having frozen my backside off these past two days as I'm terrified to have the heating on longer than an hour a day, I'm thinking that this will be utterly intolerable come next Winter. Will there be mass civil unrest and the guillotine rolled out while the affluent are targeted by the desperate and those with nothing left to loose?

It's making everyone miserable, surely there can be a compromise. I think the carbon neutral date is unrealistic

@MarshaBradyo

Watermelon politically I’d say Labour are going for windfall tax to set them apart.

Reading up on it it doesn’t seem as straightforward as appears - it can have knock on effects on price or pensions

Indeed. All those public service pensions invested in Shell and BP.

Nar we’re British, we’ll just take it up the arse as per usual.

@Crunchymum

There has been too much division in society for us to have a true uprising.

We've been divided on every level - race, sex, sexual preference, religion, gender identity, wealth, education, political identity, health, vaccination status etc. We're too disjointed and too angry with each other to ever unite for any kind meaningful action.

I agree with this totally. We have all been played against each other for years.

@MadameHeisenberg

Fucking hell, the UK-centric navel-gazing and party political squabbling on this thread is depressing to read. Do you people not know what is going on in the world at large?

I’m no fan of ‘the Tories’ (zero time for toffs, the parasitic monarchy and the class system in general - it’s one of the reasons I emigrated) but this is far bigger than them and far bigger than the UK. There is a global energy and food supply crisis and people across Europe and further afield are deeply concerned about it.

And the French are hardly to be held up as an example to follow. Support for the far right there is at/approaching 40% in total. And by far right, I don’t mean the equivalent of ‘the Tories’. Marine Le Pen is the National Front - actual fascists.

Also, it’s far easier for the French government to cap energy price rises as most of their electricity comes from government linked nuclear power - they are nowhere near as exposed to foreign gas as the Germans and Austrians for e.g. (who are also more exposed than the UK).

And they are certainly as affected by the price of oil as as anywhere else; a litre of petrol was 2.40 Euros last week at our closet French station (I’m across the border in Switzerland).

So while the UK government could certainly be doing more to ameliorate the effects of these international situations, they neither caused them nor will they solve them. And it’s worth remembering that it’s as least as bad or worse for other countries’ populations (not that this is a race to the bottom, but some reflection & perspective is needed, judging by this thread).

Well said.

Not until it gets warmer. Brits riot in the summer generally.

I'd happily riot.

Well ... maybe not actually ''riot''. I'd join in marching angrily though our nearest town ...

@Allmyarseandpeggymartin

Not until it gets warmer. Brits riot in the summer generally.

Not if it's tooooo hot though ...

@SmellyOldOwls

Maybe just don't vote Tory? Is that an option?

It might be if Labour could decide what a woman actually is.

@sst1234

Hands up who supported Covid restrictions like lockdowns. Oh no, everyone’s gone all quiet. Or coming out with excuses like ‘but but but it saved lives’, ‘but we didn’t know what was going to happen’, ‘but it was needed at the time’. While these low risk people were banging pots and pans like idiots outside their houses, watching Netflix all day and baking banana bread with kids, governments around the world were printing money like it was going out of fashion. What did you think was going to happen? Locking down healthy adults and shutting down the economy and have the magic money tree pay for it would only lead to this. Was the banana bread worth it?

Cometh the hour, cometh the James Melville.

@Laiste

I'd happily riot.

Well ... maybe not actually ''riot''. I'd join in marching angrily though our nearest town ...

Sounds good to me 😀

@woodhill

And I'm afraid I'm done with the carbon neutral utopia which is unrealistic

Yes unfortunately we need fossil fuels until the green energy is providing more of what we need capacity wise.

And while admirable, the net zero aim is futile unless china, India, USA et al are on board too.

Yes exactly and we need to find alternatives but we could still make use of what is already here at the same time

@woodhill

And I'm afraid I'm done with the carbon neutral utopia which is unrealistic

Me too. It’s of little comfort to someone who can’t afford to heat their home.

Great Britain: rapidly slipping from the G7. Not quite a 'developed nation'. It's corporate corruption that is crippling us, mainly - for one, who exactly owned and profited from all those low cost, competitive energy companies?

@TerraNovaTwo

Great Britain: rapidly slipping from the G7. Not quite a 'developed nation'. It's corporate corruption that is crippling us, mainly - for one, who exactly owned and profited from all those low cost, competitive energy companies?

How do you arrive at that conclusion?

Mass civil unrest will never happen in the UK. It’s just not part of the national psyche. I remember seeing a quote ‘the English have satire instead of revolutions’.

This.

@deadlanguage

Mass civil unrest will never happen in the UK. It’s just not part of the national psyche. I remember seeing a quote ‘the English have satire instead of revolutions’.

The brits love a riot! History is full of them.

if anyone needs me to poke someone's eyes out i am here with my chopsticks! viva la revolution!

feeling like this :

I hope so. The wealth - poverty gap in this country is hideous.

@ImplementingTheDennisSystem

Nope, not going to happen. The nation sat idly by and allowed the government to impose the most damaging of covid restrictions, without complaint. Noone gives a shit about anything, they're too busy watching cat videos on TikTok.

I agree with this.

I predict that there will be no massive reaction as there has been none to any of the other nonsense that has happened over the last 8-12 years

Protesting against just the government won’t work. It’s the whole rotten unfair system that is wrong. Too big a proportion of the resources held by too small a proportion of ultra wealthy people.

We need to change the whole system. When life gets so difficult for most of us that we can’t enjoy a decent quality of life, when we start losing everything we’ve worked for, it will be interesting to see how angry we get and what will happen.