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Britain's First Trans MP. ((TW references rape and car crash))

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TooBigForMyBoots · 30/03/2022 16:48

Jamie Wallis, The Conservative MP for Bridgend has come out as Britain's first Trans MP, having been diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria.

This is really big news on its own. However Jamie's statement contained lots of other things as well. He was being blackmailed, his blackmailer is in prison. He recently suffered rape.Sad He has PTSD from the rape which caused him to leave the scene of an accident last year, where he crashed his car.

AIBU to feel a bit discombobulated at Jamie Wallis' statement?Confused There is so much information.ConfusedConfusedConfused

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TracyMosby · 30/03/2022 22:40

@ginghamstarfish

How is this bloke still an MP anyway?
This.
Janesmom · 30/03/2022 22:42

@SnowdropsInSpring

How is he actually trans?

Nothing has changed (not even his pronouns) except that instead of scrutinising his prostitution website and his hit and run website, people are fawning over his stunning and braveness.

The alleged rape is a different matter, for which I hope he gets support.

Is he a transwoman? A woman? A man? None? He shows what a farce it can all be.

I don’t see why he’s obliged to demonstrate or evidence that he’s trans. If that’s what he says, I think most reasonable people will take it at face value.
Hasselhoffsheadband · 30/03/2022 22:44

I don’t see why he’s obliged to demonstrate or evidence that he’s trans. If that’s what he says, I think most reasonable people will take it at face value.

Does that mean he should now be allowed in women's spaces?

TracyMosby · 30/03/2022 22:44

I don’t see why he’s obliged to demonstrate or evidence that he’s trans. If that’s what he says, I think most reasonable people will take it at face value
And that is the problem.

SnowdropsInSpring · 30/03/2022 22:44

At face value

At face value, he's a man. They’re all men.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 30/03/2022 22:45

I don't mean him personally necessarily by the way. But if any man comes out with a statement like his, does that give them the right to then start using women's spaces?

SnowdropsInSpring · 30/03/2022 22:47

Someone said make men's toilets gender neutral and keep female ones for females (of the xx variety). That would work…

Thymeout · 30/03/2022 22:51

I'm surprised there aren't mainstream threads on the Ockendon Report. All those babies and mothers who died because of an anti-caesarean birth culture - and a shortage of midwives. I was expecting a parenting website to be all over this.
It may be difficult for those in the echo chamber of the FWR board to believe this, but I don't think the average woman is as obsessed with the trans issue as they are.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/03/2022 22:55

@demotedreally

I think most people don't really know who he is and it is not really news therefore. Even if you are into politics.
Firsts in any field, particularly politics, is news.

Or is it not?Confused Is First Trans Politician and his detailed statement not worth commenting on? Even though it was discussed in the Commons, appears in all mainstream press?Confused

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Sickoffamilydrama · 30/03/2022 23:02

@Thymeout

I'm surprised there aren't mainstream threads on the Ockendon Report. All those babies and mothers who died because of an anti-caesarean birth culture - and a shortage of midwives. I was expecting a parenting website to be all over this. It may be difficult for those in the echo chamber of the FWR board to believe this, but I don't think the average woman is as obsessed with the trans issue as they are.
Here you go www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4517485-201-babies-and-9-women-died-94-babies-with-life-changing-injuries-all-avoidable

I'm sure there's more, funnily enough women can focus on more than one issue at a time and anyone is welcome to post a thread have you made one about this issue if you are concerned?

FOJN · 30/03/2022 23:02

It may be difficult for those in the echo chamber of the FWR board to believe this, but I don't think the average woman is as obsessed with the trans issue as they are.

You must have missed it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4517485-201-babies-and-9-women-died-94-babies-with-life-changing-injuries-all-avoidable

Sickoffamilydrama · 30/03/2022 23:03

Snap FOJN!!!

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/03/2022 23:04

I don’t see why he’s obliged to demonstrate or evidence that he’s trans.

Jamie has received a Gender Dysphoria diagnosis. I assume the Conservative party are happy enough with the evidence they have received, to support their, and Britain's first Trans MP.

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FOJN · 30/03/2022 23:06

Sickoffamilydrama

Funny it was in the feminism section where I go to read about feminist issues not trans issues. Grin

montysma1 · 30/03/2022 23:06

You dont really speak for average women. How do you know what they think?

Clymene · 30/03/2022 23:06

He was a dodgy fucker then and he's a dodgy fucker now.

As for the interest, it was on Sky News radio. ABC no I hadn't head of him before today but there are so many dodgy fucker MPs, it's sometimes hard to keep up

Thelnebriati · 30/03/2022 23:08

Oh snap. I was about to say there have been two threads since February, but as they are on FWR I doubt Thymeout would have seen either of them.

Sickoffamilydrama · 30/03/2022 23:08

Anyway OP I'm rather annoyed at this MP implication that PTSD means he can leave the scene of an accident.
Whilst it's brave to announce publicly that he was raped and I hope he gets adequate support, lots of women have PTSD due to rape they don't all use it as excuses to break the law.

MiniatureHotdog · 30/03/2022 23:14

lots of women have PTSD due to rape they don't all use it as excuses to break the law

Quite. I'd never heard of him. But having read his bizarre statement and then read about his business practices and scant regard for the law he's certainly not someone that should be an MP.

Moppincraxy · 30/03/2022 23:18

@Notcontent

I was really confused when I read about this today - I couldn’t work out if he was male or female.
Really?! You couldn't work put if he was male or female? Hmm
Moppincraxy · 30/03/2022 23:18

out

mumda · 31/03/2022 00:25

Is trans a get out of male jail card?

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/03/2022 00:30

Jamie posted his statement at 2.45 this morning. After a Tory party dinner. In a speech at the beginning of the night, PM Johnson made a Trans/KStarmer joke.

I think that this may have played a part in Jamie's decision to come out as trans. My mind is still blown by it all.ShockConfusedHmmConfused

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TooBigForMyBoots · 31/03/2022 00:32

@mumda

Is trans a get out of male jail card?
I don't think it is in this case. MP Wallis was fined over the crash and that is it.
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Valeriekat · 31/03/2022 01:19

The timing is interesting don't you think?