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Will Smith/Chris Rock Oscars - where do you stand?

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Jaggerdagger · 28/03/2022 07:28

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-60898250

I'm a bit on the fence at the moment but shocked from watching this - wondered what others think?

YABU Will Smith had every right to wallop Chris. His wife was clearly deeply insulted. He deserved it.
YANBU Chris was just reading from a script and didn't deserve such a public assault.

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RuralRita · 28/03/2022 07:57

Lost a load of respect for Will Smith. What a dick. Did his little woman need saving?

Toxic masculinity at its worst.

Jaggerdagger · 28/03/2022 07:57

www.instagram.com/reel/CboD3G6Akc8/?utm_medium=copy_link

Unfortunate wording with this post, Will. You certainly did choose chaos!

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DoingAway · 28/03/2022 07:58

They are both dicks. I can understand him wanting to punch him but not actually doing it. Toxic male behaviour and so tedious.

londonrach · 28/03/2022 07:59

Both were wrong but the moment it became physical that was worse.

SpringLobelia · 28/03/2022 08:01

Violence is always wrong unless in self defence in the most serious of situations.

The oscar 'roast' jokes are always shit.

THisbackwithavengeance · 28/03/2022 08:01

My money is on the whole thing being staged. I never even knew the Oscars were on as my news feed is full of Ukraine, Ukraine and Ukraine with an end bit about Covid.

Now we're all talking about it and it's on all the news channels. Ukraine is temporarily forgotten.

I can't imagine Will and Jada are so loved up that he would kick off like that to some poor taste joke. I thought they famously had a marriage of convenience?

Merrymouse · 28/03/2022 08:02

No one made J and W go

Given that he was nominated for an award, it would be a bit odd for him to stay away.

I agree that his reaction was not excusable.

User478 · 28/03/2022 08:03

If he's happy to hit someone in front of a live audience and on TV what would he do behind closed doors?

Divebar2021 · 28/03/2022 08:04

I think if you’re going to take the piss out of a woman’s medical condition in front of her husband you should probably anticipate a less than stellar response. I should think WS is embarrassed but I don’t consider it “unforgivable” as someone has said. He at least had the good grace to apologise later although I notice it was to the Academy and not to CR. Meh. Can’t get worked up over it… suck it up Chris Rock… if you’re going to play with matches….

BloodyloveGeorge · 28/03/2022 08:05

‘ If he's happy to hit someone in front of a live audience and on TV what would he do behind closed doors?’

My first thought was, when else does he use his fists?

BurntEnds · 28/03/2022 08:05

It was a disgusting "joke" to make. He shouldn't have hit him. Everyone could see it was out of order.

Chasingaftermidnight · 28/03/2022 08:06

Who was responsible for the joke? Was it pre-scripted and if so by whom, or was it off the cuff ‘comedy’ by Chris Rock?

CharityShopChic · 28/03/2022 08:06

Boh completely unreasonable. Will Smith shouldn't have hit him but the "joke" was well out of order. Jada Pinkett Smith's face said it all. Stony.

ENoeuf · 28/03/2022 08:06

Merrymouse

No one made J and W go

Given that he was nominated for an award, it would be a bit odd for him to stay away.

I agree that his reaction was not excusable.

people do get their awards accepted by others, so he didn’t have to go. They chose to attend, and therefore should have accepted the whole offer - adulation plus cheap shots. If they wanted to call out the insulting speeches they should do that properly and on behalf of everyone

BloodyloveGeorge · 28/03/2022 08:06

Can’t believe his actually has the gumption to turn up to the winners party like nothing’s happen. He should be sat in a police cell waiting to be charged for assault.

MajorCarolDanvers · 28/03/2022 08:06

Assault for a bad joke is not justified.

Calling it out would have been proportionate.

Fjea · 28/03/2022 08:07

I think if JPS had stormed onto the stage and slapped Chris Rock there wouldn’t be a debate at all. She’d be a crazy bitch who couldn’t take a joke and everyone would be horrified and sympathising with Will Smith.

puffyisgood · 28/03/2022 08:07

if WS had rushed the stage and said, "that was seriously unfunny, shameful even" I'd have been with him all the way, it'd have been more than appropriate.

as it is, what he did was far worse than the joke, given licence to every tanked-up moron in the crowd at a comedy club to attempt to emulate him.

ENoeuf · 28/03/2022 08:08

BloodyloveGeorge

Can’t believe his actually has the gumption to turn up to the winners party like nothing’s happen. He should be sat in a police cell waiting to be charged for assault.

*I agree. It’s just an example of how insulated they all are from real life. If Dave from accounts lobbed Pete from marketing at a sales event over an insult , he wouldn’t be ‘comforted’ and attending parties’

Roselilly36 · 28/03/2022 08:08

@Sockpile

Calling Chris out for offending his wife is fine, resorting to physical violence is not.
100% agree
Kendodd · 28/03/2022 08:10

Can't believe 25% of people think it's ok to slap people Shock
Violence is NEVER ok.

tttigress · 28/03/2022 08:10

Haven't seen the event, but isn't "roasting" part of speech giving in America (not saying I like it).

What ever the rights and wrongs, he should not have hit him.

GatoradeMeBitch · 28/03/2022 08:11

Chris Rock came out of the whole thing looking better than Will Smith. I've seen Will lash out at someone before, a comedian who tried to kiss him - obviously not cool, but it's also not cool that hitting is his go-to reaction.

And then to be crying and feeling sorry for himself in his speech and have people come up and hug him doesn't make me feel any better about him. It's manipulative, using the time to frame himself as the victim. (Not to mention that he didn't even speak to or look at Jada during the break, he spent the whole time talking to other actors.)

BurntEnds · 28/03/2022 08:11

I thought it was odd it looked like it was going to be a punch then turned into a slap, almost as if he had thought oh wait I can't punch him. So he had some sort of control but I don't get why he didn't just yell at him. Or leave it for everyone else to realise it was a sick joke.

Merrymouse · 28/03/2022 08:12

people do get their awards accepted by others, so he didn’t have to go

Because they can’t be there, not because they think the Oscars are rubbish, and not for best actor awards.

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