Aibu to think if the worst happened and your child died in mysterious circumstances you should have a right to know what happened.

[Turningpurple]

Just as the title says.

Noah Donohoe disappeared coming home from school, his body was found in a storm drain without his clothes.

His mother can not get answers on why the police decided, immediately that there was no four play and us being blocked from seeing 4 files by the police.

She says On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved.I ask, if the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved, why are the police now trying to stop me, as Noah’s mummy, getting four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

Surely I am not unreasonable to think this isn't ok and that most of use would want to know what had happened to our child?

This is an overview of what has happened so far.

mobile.twitter.com/MarymoBelfast/status/1370453351616425985?s=20&t=yryUQok3nQ619uJUawvnjg

And SF have hijacked this big time to denigrate the police.

Why shouldn’t I defend the PSNI? The NI police have had a lot to deal with for decades. I support them.

And I didn’t just join for that reason. I couldn’t get the name change thing to work. I’m a super long time poster. Poo stool etc

@MillyMollyMurphy

Why would the police cover up the murder of a child? He wasn’t sexually abused. So no paedo ring like Kincora. It doesn’t make sense. Most cops have kids of their own. Someone would break cover.

If this comment is genuine, then it is incredibly naive.

Please can we not let a very small number of posters derail the thread.

Let's keep the focus on Noah and Fiona.

I’m not even on Twitter! You can’t just shut me down because I don’t believe this conspiracy theory that there is no evidence for.

@MillyMollyMurphy

I think the problem is that it has happened in a very political sensitive arena. The PSNI are still dealing with terrorism and it may well be that it is not in the public interest to see those files. I’m particularly thinking of the way that Sinn Fein have become so involved.

I don’t mean for this to sound in any way unsympathetic to the appalling loss of this beautiful boy.

I am sorry I have a migraine and going to bed. But I wanted to mention this. My brain just isn't working properly. But its not that simple to say 'they can hide whatever the want....cause terrorism'. This is what I found.

Public Interest Immunity certificates (PII) are used to hold back information.

They were and are extensively used to hold back information in conflict legacy cases.

"This inquest is about the death of a 14-year-old child. It is not conflict related.

My understanding is that they can just say they want to use this clause and that's it.

If the PII applies then it follows that it wasn't an accident.

But also its not a legacy case. I also doubt the use of that clause means they can lie about cause of death. Although I am not 100% sure of that.

Get well soon @Turningpurple - I'm not surprised that you've got a migraine with - thankfully a very, very small minority - some pps.

It has been applied in all sorts of cases- I don’t think it’s actually ever in the public’s interest…

If the PII applies then it follows that it wasn't an accident.

This. If there is nothing to hide and it was just a horrible accident, then there would be no problem releasing the files surely.
Police want to hide stuff - this is a fact because they are openly seeking to hide whatever is in the files. It's not a conspiracy theory - something IS being hidden. His mum deserves to know what happened to her son, and the people who do know won't tell her. That is not right.

Just to be clear, for the avoidance of doubt:

This is not about tin-hat conspiracy theories, armchair sleuthing, anti-police sentiment, conflict, terrorism or different communities.

We need to ensure that this thread is not diverted down any of those unhelpful roads.

This is about the death of one innocent boy. It is in every decent person's interests that what happened to Noah is not covered up. His mummy needs to know the truth. At the moment, she does not and she believes that somebody harmed him. I can fully understand why.

RIP Noah 💙

Well said @TheRealMrsMac

OP I hope your headache eases

#justicefornoah 💙

Have Sinn Fein finally taken notice? Every single politician in Belfast should be behind Fiona.

@TooBigForMyBoots

Have Sinn Fein finally taken notice? Every single politician in Belfast should be behind Fiona.

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There’s a lot of people not understanding the context here. Because this happened in NI there are a lot of other factors at play. It’s just not the same as if it happened in England.

You don't mention he was on his bike or that he fell off it and hit his head and was seen on his bike having removed some of his clothing. You don't mention that the community were out looking for a boy KNOWN to have sustained an injury. Hence the police stating no foul play was suspected before they found him.

Falling off, hitting his head is all speculation. The last sightings of him were on his bike in an area of Belfast that he was unfamiliar with and had no reason to enter. And was seen without clothes.

I understand the "context" perfectly well @uglyflowers. When a child disappears and is later found dead, the police have a job to do: find the facts and present them. Noah and Fiona Donahoe are as deserving of truth as any English family.

@uglyflowers

There’s a lot of people not understanding the context here. Because this happened in NI there are a lot of other factors at play. It’s just not the same as if it happened in England.

I think some posters are being careful with their words. Many of us know the other factors at play only too well. Others may not understand the entire context but at least they are here and signing/ sharing.

@uglyflowers

There’s a lot of people not understanding the context here. Because this happened in NI there are a lot of other factors at play. It’s just not the same as if it happened in England.

That's no excuse.

Let's keep the focus on Noah and Fiona please.

Fiona and Noah

What a beautiful photo.

Im from Belfast but live in England so have no idea of the speculation surrounding the case. What I do know is it stinks to high heaven & Noah's mum deserves the truth & Noah deserves justice.

I agree pp.

Noah Donohoe.