For telling my neighbour he should stay home

[queensonia]

My next door neighbours both tested positive for COVID on the weekend. Today I saw the husband getting in his car to go to work. He works for a medium sized public company with a lot of staff. He said he was told that he’s not legally obliged to isolate and that if he felt well enough he should still go into work. I told him he was morally obliged to isolate because he could infect colleagues who may suffer far worse than he is currently and pass it on to their relatives who may also get very ill or die. Is this what everyone is doing now.? In my industry we are pcr tested twice a week and not allowed on site until the test is negative.

@Beansontoastagain

Bet you're a proper curtain twitcher. YABU.

Don’t have curtains. Perhaps you could recommend some

Because with a contagious illness, a person's behaviour doesn’t just affect the individual but impacts everyone else around them as well. I thought that would be obvious.

This applies to multiple other things in life, too. There are many things we all do that can affect others, whether knowingly or inadvertently. Do you judge everyone who leaves their home with cold, too? I'm honestly not sure where people find the time or energy to be so invested in the actions of others, but that's just me...

Because with a contagious illness, a person's behaviour doesn’t just affect the individual but impacts everyone else around them as well. I thought that would be obvious.

Would you have told him he had a 'moral obligation' to stay home if he had a cold but hadn't tested positive for covid?

@queensonia

He could have got paid sick leave.. He is a senior manager with full employment benefits so it is not a case of losing money if he stayed home.

How can you possibly know that?

@Sofiegiraffe

Because with a contagious illness, a person's behaviour doesn’t just affect the individual but impacts everyone else around them as well. I thought that would be obvious.

This applies to multiple other things in life, too. There are many things we all do that can affect others, whether knowingly or inadvertently. Do you judge everyone who leaves their home with cold, too? I'm honestly not sure where people find the time or energy to be so invested in the actions of others, but that's just me...

Would you happily sleep with someone who had active herpes in that case?

@Hidingin

Morals don’t pay the bills. Mind your business

This!

I went to work positive for covid on Monday and Tuesday this week. Was off last week and negative this morning. The colleague I sit next too tested positive on Sunday but feels fine so has been in this week.

It has been made clear to us at work that if we are sick with covid then we can claim sick pay and be off, but if we feel fit to work, even if we are positive, we should go to work.

Sunday evening I messaged my manager and said I'm positive still but feeling better, what would she like me to do, she asked me to go in. So I did. I've worn a mask, although not been asked to.

If you aren't sick, you aren't entitled to sick pay. There is no more government funding for isolation. If your employer will still pay you sick pay when you aren't sick, that's great, most won't. It is highly unreasonable to ask people to take unpaid leave or to use up their holiday allowance. Making individuals shoulder the costs of isolation is really unfair.

We are advising staff to work at home, including those with just coughs and colds at the moment. But we worked at home fully during the pandemic and can work perfectly fine at home. No way would we want covid positive staff in the office.

He may well have had the conversation with his manager but can guarantee he won’t be popular with his colleagues if they find out

I agree with you OP, Covid is still killing people, but it seems that doesn’t matter anymore! I am currently isolating because, after managing to avoid it for nearly 2 years, I tested positive 2 days ago. I will be avoiding everyone as I don’t want to pass it on (plus I’m feeling pretty dreadful anyway)!

@queensonia

No, I wouldn't fucking sleep with someone who had herpes. I'd love to know what the fuck that has to do with 1) your thread, or 2) my comment.

@Darbs76

We are advising staff to work at home, including those with just coughs and colds at the moment. But we worked at home fully during the pandemic and can work perfectly fine at home. No way would we want covid positive staff in the office.

He may well have had the conversation with his manager but can guarantee he won’t be popular with his colleagues if they find out

That’s interesting to know. The range of opinions on here is so divided

How do you know so much about what your neighbours are doing?

Ridiculous thread. Along with one of the most ridiculous questions I've ever been asked on here. Folk are strange. I'm out.

[quote Sofiegiraffe]@queensonia

No, I wouldn't fucking sleep with someone who had herpes. I'd love to know what the fuck that has to do with 1) your thread, or 2) my comment.

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Because you expressed the opinion that being exposed to a contagious illness that doesn’t make you to sick to go to work is something we should all just learn to accept

If you said that to me I'd absolutely tell you to fuck off. I hope there's more to this and he's more of a friend/neighbour rather than an actual neighbour you just say hi and bye to. You seem to know a lot about his work and sick pay situation which I also find strange.

Unreasonable.
He may have no choice but to go to work. Not everywhere offers paid sick leave. He may not be happy about it either.
YABVU telling him what to do.

Only applicable if you sleep with all of your colleagues, really.

@queensonia

Well firstly, no, I didn't say that. However, I do happen to think that we need to learn to accept Covid as part of the new normal, yes.

That aside, I'm still at a loss as to what the fuck that has to do with making a decision to have sex with someone with an STI?!

You seem to know a lot about his work and sick pay situation which I also find strange.

Agreed

Blimey. If we had ever been occupied by an invader, covid has certainly identified those who would have been collaborators!

Were all those ‘outraged’ about others behaviour throughout the pandemic as bothered before 2020 whether a sick person was going into work and potentially spreading flu, norovirus etc? All of which could be fatal to anyone immuno compromised?

It has been reported today ( although tucked away because it’s not dramatic and scary enough) that more than half and up to two thirds of those reported as hospital cases are in fact being treated for other conditions and have just happened to test positive.

Its nothing to do with you!!! How bloody rude!

YANBU in your view, although technically I suppose it's not your business to challenge him.

I really hoped this country would learn about 'soldiering in' and presenteeism from this pandemic, but it appears not. If you get sick pay or can WFH you absolutely shouldn't be rocking up. If you don't, that's a separate issue and I think the government are letting us down in that regard as this is so much more contagious than colds / flu.

@Tee20x

If you said that to me I'd absolutely tell you to fuck off. I hope there's more to this and he's more of a friend/neighbour rather than an actual neighbour you just say hi and bye to. You seem to know a lot about his work and sick pay situation which I also find strange.

It’s a bit like Coronation Street where I live. Neighbours actually talk to each other