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For telling my neighbour he should stay home

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queensonia · 23/03/2022 18:16

My next door neighbours both tested positive for COVID on the weekend. Today I saw the husband getting in his car to go to work. He works for a medium sized public company with a lot of staff. He said he was told that he’s not legally obliged to isolate and that if he felt well enough he should still go into work. I told him he was morally obliged to isolate because he could infect colleagues who may suffer far worse than he is currently and pass it on to their relatives who may also get very ill or die. Is this what everyone is doing now.? In my industry we are pcr tested twice a week and not allowed on site until the test is negative.

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CannaBelieve · 23/03/2022 20:09

What do you think should be 'put in place' though??

The public who I work with may or may not have covid.....we are sitting ducks. They are customers. We have no choice but to serve them..... what else should we do??

Also... the neighbour may have paid sick leave but it's not unlimited is it? Our place is 3 strikes only

Do we tend to save it for real debilitating illness, not covid if it's only mild

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queensonia · 23/03/2022 20:09

@worriedatthistime

Where do you work that you are pcr tested twice a week I don't think even the nhs get this

Film industry

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CannaBelieve · 23/03/2022 20:10

[quote AlJalilia]@DearlyBeloathed he works for a ‘medium sized public company’. He would almost certainly get sick leave.

He’s selfish.[/quote]

Won't be unlimited though

Maybe he's used it up?

Sceptre86 · 23/03/2022 20:10

It was quite frankly none of your business and you should have kept your opinion to yourself. I do agree with you however all employers have a different stance on this and I know of one that is actively discouraging people from testing now because if they do test positive will be expected to isolate until they give a negative test. I wasn't very ill when I had covid the first time and could have worked (I'm on mat leave though) but the second time I was floored for a week. I've had 3 jabs. My mum works for a supermarket and an employees partner tested positive, as she had no symptoms she was expected in work and wouldn't have been paid otherwise, she developed them two days later and then tested positive. Three other staff members who worked alongside her tested positive within days of working with her (next to each other on the tills).

Sofiegiraffe · 23/03/2022 20:11

[quote AlJalilia]@DearlyBeloathed he works for a ‘medium sized public company’. He would almost certainly get sick leave.

He’s selfish.[/quote]

Are people still using the word "selfish" to describe people going about their daily lives and going to work? I thought that had died out in 2021.....

girlmom21 · 23/03/2022 20:13

@queensonia

Just to be clear I’m not blaming this man personally but the lack of a coherent policy that has put people in this situation. We are on friendly terms so I was expressing my honest opinion when I told him that I thought he should stay home - not issuing an order

Your post before this one said Exactly. It’s his choice to go to work but what choice do his colleagues have?

That reads like you blaming the individual, not the policy.

tigger1001 · 23/03/2022 20:13

@queensonia

He could have got paid sick leave.. He is a senior manager with full employment benefits so it is not a case of losing money if he stayed home.

Only if he is actually sick.

And many companies start disciplinary proceedings if too much sick t8me in a year.

You don't know - you are just guessing. Why would you feel like it's an appropriate thing for you to comment on?

I think you're pretty luck you weren't told to go fuck yourself to be honest. I think that would have been lots of peoples reaction.

worriedatthistime · 23/03/2022 20:13

@queensonia because yo said you work from home

Plumspears · 23/03/2022 20:14

Tbh, with vaccines, spring on its way and a mild but very virulent strain, now may be precisely the right time to build up some natural immunity in the population. For the vast majority Omicron is very mild natural immunity appears to be a bit stronger than the vaccines. So perhaps perfect time to let the virus circulate while people still have some protection from the vaccines... That strategy seems to have gone well in Denmark where they're a few weeks ahead of us. And presumably our curve won't be as steep as a larger proportion of the UK population already has some natural immunity....

worriedatthistime · 23/03/2022 20:14

@queensonia opps no you didn't i think another poster did who agreed with you
How do you know what benefits etc he gets like sick pay etc from work

roarfeckingroarr · 23/03/2022 20:15

None of your business

HELLITHURT · 23/03/2022 20:15

[quote AlJalilia]@DearlyBeloathed he works for a ‘medium sized public company’. He would almost certainly get sick leave.

He’s selfish.[/quote]
Nah!

Plumspears · 23/03/2022 20:15

Sorry. Post very much lacking in punctuation!!

tigger1001 · 23/03/2022 20:15

@queensonia

Did he ask for your opinion?

MuggleMadness · 23/03/2022 20:16

@girlmom21

the most read article in our local paper today was the hospital telling if significant pressures and to only go to A&E if life or death situation.

Well yeah that's because people can't quite comprehend the concepts of accidents and emergencies so we have to exaggerate for the morons.

A&E isn't going to be stretched to its limits because of covid patients, is it

Well it is, in a way. Ours has said the same. They have so many covid patients, the wards can't take any more patients (of any variety) so A& E is rammed, some with, some without covid, they're trying to keep red/green but have told people to stay away unless life & death.

worriedatthistime · 23/03/2022 20:17

Also lets face it come next month most people won't be testing so will be going in with covid
When i had it i had none of the symptoms and only picked up as my ds had it
Even he was only unwell for a day and would of just had a day off work then gone in if we had no tests

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queensonia · 23/03/2022 20:18

@fairylightsandwaxmelts

If my neighbour said that to me, I'd probably tell them to fuck off, quite frankly.

I'm self-employed and received absolutely no help over any of the lockdowns as I was a new business. I got nothing. If they think I should stay home from work, they can pay me my lost income for that time.

Same here. I didn’t work at all from March 2020 until May 2021 and wasn’t entitled to a penny from any scheme as my previous earnings were just over the threshold. . I couldn’t even get universal credit because I still had some savings

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worriedatthistime · 23/03/2022 20:19

@MuggleMadness how many are ill with covid though ? How many just can't be released as they have covid and cannot go to nursing home etc?
I have no idea but just wondered what is the issue exactly
I agree its busy though as i have attended a & e couple times in last 2 weeks and hospital rammed
They wanted to admit me but had no beds but tbh that isn't unusual for our local hospital at this time of year

tigger1001 · 23/03/2022 20:20

@worriedatthistime

Also lets face it come next month most people won't be testing so will be going in with covid When i had it i had none of the symptoms and only picked up as my ds had it Even he was only unwell for a day and would of just had a day off work then gone in if we had no tests

Agreed.

I think lots have already stopped testing.

We were speaking about this at work today. Most are saying they will only test if unwell, no more regular testing. And that's it for me too. Will test, while we still have tests, if unwell, otherwise, we will all just crack on.

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queensonia · 23/03/2022 20:20

[quote worriedatthistime]@queensonia because yo said you work from home[/quote]
No I never said that

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Tilltheend99 · 23/03/2022 20:22

Your not wrong but if his company don’t give sick pay many can’t afford to do that. The whole system is out of whack. Gov don’t care if the vulnerable die.

Clarabe1 · 23/03/2022 20:24

What is it with COVID that people think they have the right to judge and stick their noses in other people lives? In an ideal world we would all stay at home at the first sign of any illness but back in the real world employment contracts make that impossible for most people. A lot of people are not paid if they stay home and are limited to so many occasions of sickness absence a year. I am sure those pontificating ‘what other people should do’ have no idea what it is like for those who have little choice but to go to work.

TheWomandestroyed · 23/03/2022 20:26

@girlmom21

the most read article in our local paper today was the hospital telling if significant pressures and to only go to A&E if life or death situation.

Well yeah that's because people can't quite comprehend the concepts of accidents and emergencies so we have to exaggerate for the morons.

A&E isn't going to be stretched to its limits because of covid patients, is it

What makes you think that?

LotusCheesecake · 23/03/2022 20:28

@MasterBeth oh the guidance makes all the right soothing noises about staying at home, and it then later on says that it understands this may not be possible and if you can't you should avoid crowded spaces, wash hands regularly etc.

Let's face it, they can't say "do what ever you like", but it's pretty clear they are now just working on the basis this thing is endemic and the sooner everyone boosts immunity naturally the better.

GreenWheat · 23/03/2022 20:29

Meh, he doesn't have to isolate so he isn't. I couldn't care less if one of my colleagues came to work in that situation.

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