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If 'commoners' can marry into the royal family - why have a 'royal' family -

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HacketteofHacks · 21/03/2022 12:03

I totally respect the Queen and think she's been largely a force for good...
But at work we were talking about the tour that's on now.. my boss pointed out the the definition of a royal family was that its lineage is 'predetermined by God'.
Well that is archaic in itself - my boss (who is no royalist) the. pointed out that once members of a royal family marry commoners they lose this 'untouchable special-Ness'.
I think he had a good point...
He's from Jamaica so hence we were all having the conversation .

OP posts:
Roussette · 25/03/2022 16:25

Gosh! I never knew being a Nazi was just down to a 'lack of diversity'. That's a new one on me Hmm

DGRossetti · 25/03/2022 16:35

@Roussette

Gosh! I never knew being a Nazi was just down to a 'lack of diversity'. That's a new one on me Hmm
Er - have you seen Triumph of the Will ? Let's put it this way, it doesn't suffer from being in monochrome ....
Roussette · 25/03/2022 16:38

No, I haven't seen that.

DGRossetti · 25/03/2022 16:40

@Roussette

No, I haven't seen that.
One of us is lucky then. And it ain't me.

It's the puff-piece Hitler commissioned to capture the Nuremberg Rallies. Directed by a woman no less.

Blossomtoes · 25/03/2022 16:42

it's one less pathetic excuse for these sponging whingers and their sycophantic fanboys can use to shut down debate

The only shutting down of debate on this thread has been done by republicans, including you @DGRossetti. The notable exception has been @Roussette.

Quincunx · 25/03/2022 16:42

@DGRossetti

Don't forget they are the RF for many countries with diverse majority ethnicities which is almost like the RF having multiple ethnicities themselves.

Possibly contender for "bollocks of the day" award. And given how batshit Putin is, that's some achievement.

Definitely a contender, but competition for BotD is stiff. I think Putin's probably on this thread.

Did anyone have a stab at the OP's actual question? Perhaps we'll find out when Thor and Odin smite the commoner in the RF midst.

IncompleteSenten · 25/03/2022 16:45

If they don't bring in some new blood once in a while we end up with the Hapsburg jaw and shit like that.

At least this lot don't marry their own siblings.

DGRossetti · 25/03/2022 16:45

@Blossomtoes

it's one less pathetic excuse for these sponging whingers and their sycophantic fanboys can use to shut down debate

The only shutting down of debate on this thread has been done by republicans, including you @DGRossetti. The notable exception has been @Roussette.

It's almost as if I learned from engaging with Brexiteers Smile
Zilla1 · 25/03/2022 16:45

Before anyone brings up any hedging of the RF's bets in connection with the HRH Edward VIII/the DoW and WW2, this has been thoroughly disproved.

Blossomtoes · 25/03/2022 16:46

It's almost as if I learned from engaging with Brexiteers

Non sequitur of the day.

DGRossetti · 25/03/2022 16:49

@Zilla1

Before anyone brings up any hedging of the RF's bets in connection with the HRH Edward VIII/the DoW and WW2, this has been thoroughly disproved.
I hadn't heard that one ...

Generally I've read over the years that Eddie the Eighth (seems he shared his moniker with a local drug dealer) indicated to the Nazis that while the British upper classes seemed to be opposed to National Socialism, secretly they were big fans of keeping the plebs in place. Probably not helped by Ribbentrop's ludicrous behaviour.

And the myth about the RF staying in blighty during the war came about because they would not have been welcome anywhere else ....

DGRossetti · 25/03/2022 16:50

@Blossomtoes

It's almost as if I learned from engaging with Brexiteers

Non sequitur of the day.

Oh, the irony Grin
Zilla1 · 25/03/2022 17:06

If you want to know how much they loved the country, they even changed their official surnames to a town with a castle to show how British they really were but that was a different world war. Can you imagine the expense in stationary they incurred while rationing was on but made the sacrifice.

They might have thought about adding a Bajan, Indian, Burmese and other nations' town names but thought that would be unwieldy and performative, I think.

RogueBorg · 25/03/2022 17:32

@Blossomtoes

www.republic.org.uk/

I’ve linked it twice already but here it is again.

Plenty of arguments on this thread for a republic - you’re just choosing to ignore them 🤷‍♀️.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/03/2022 18:14

If you want to know how much they loved the country, they even changed their official surnames to a town with a castle to show how British they really were but that was a different world war

You jumped the shark with that one, Zilla Wink

I'd wondered if you were in earnest about all this, but you can't not know that this had nothing to do with "loving the country" and everything to do with self-preservation because they didn't wish to be seen as the bunch of Germans they were - especially at a time when other monarchies were falling

RogueBorg · 25/03/2022 18:22

@Zilla1 what do you mean by “it’s been disproved”? Their links with the Nazis?

DGRossetti · 26/03/2022 10:21

Sort of Samid touch really.

It's fascinating the BBC were following them around this tour with their tongues up their arses during and the moment they leave, they do a hatchet job.

This picture pretty much summed it up. Dated 1943. Or may as well have been. It may well warm the cockles of the armchair racist in the UK. But somehow I don't think it's being viewed in quite the same light around the globe.

If 'commoners' can marry into the royal family - why have a 'royal' family -
Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/03/2022 10:51

It's fascinating the BBC were following them around this tour with their tongues up their arses during and the moment they leave, they do a hatchet job

But perhaps not surprising, given the animosity between William and the BBC recently? (Martin Bashir, Princes and the Press, etc.)

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