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To just accept I can't improve anything here

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Womanaintafeeling · 18/03/2022 15:49

I have constant brain fog trying to figure out what is best in this situation and wanted the candour of strangers to give me some clarity.

I am a breadwinner wife with DS7 and DS 4.5. I've gone from a manageable role of 3 days a week to more senior role and 5 days a week. We did this so my husband could switch from a role in BIG consulting to go into teaching. He said it was impacting his mental health and we felt his health had to come first.

The finances just about work now the kids are at school. None of the flexibility or load-sharing promised along with his career move has materialised. I've had 4 days off work this week with the kids having Covid. HE has gone to work because teachers don't take time off during the term. I am going to have to work this weekend...

I am shattered from it all. Shattered from constantly asking him to do things. I put a chart together of what happens when and asked that we divvy up responsibilities e.g school admin.
Shattered from asking for basic level parenting at the end of the day, such as supervising school work, packing school bag, sorting PE kit.
Dishing up some oven food,

He works late and arrives just as the kids are going to bed.

I'm shattered from having to remember school things so my kids don't lose out - trips, special days, book day, money for school fairs.
Highlighting that the burden feels unfair and that I seem to be stuck with lots more responsibility results in name-calling, sulking or him going off to the gym.

After putting together a chart trying to show how much disparity there is in our roles, I've been on strike and just done stuff for me and the kids. Ignored his laundry, footy kits, meal prep, sorting out Sky (only watched by him). He has just been stepping over the chaos of a stinky mess that is the kitchen.

Nothing has changed, he just orders a takeaway to eat in the spare room or goes on Amazon watch-parties with his mates.

My days are spent, finishing work at 2, dealing with school run and children and then logging back into work at 8 and going til midnight.

His weekends are spent on his phone, moaning about the sport on tv and how the kids hassle him to do stuff. After telling him last night, I felt really disrespected, unappreciated and stuck, he said I was just giving him shit and he went to sleep in the spare room.

He has shouted at the kids this week, they are tired, Covid full and grouchy. They get tearful and I could chuck his sorry arse out on to the street.

I feel shattered. I've a chronic medical condition that flares up a lot after poor sleep or lack of physical activity. He simply said I look fine, it's not any worse than it was 5 years ago.

The options I see here are to:
Suck it up and expect it can't change, seek counselling to change how I feel
End the relationship and tough it out as a lone parent - which comes with huge lifestyle issues and to be honest, I'm terrified. No family support, parents are both gone.
Work on a way to help him effin contribute.

Am I just tired and unreasonable, could he have depression or something else? All/any thoughts welcome.

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Throckmorton · 18/03/2022 16:00

He sounds bloody awful. Not just the not-pulling his weight, but name calling and sulking. Unless this is a new trait and wildly out of character, it sounds like you and the kids would be better off without him. Even if that made though for a bit, at least you would not have someone working against all your efforts

RandomMess · 18/03/2022 16:05

If you left do you think he would step up and do at least 60:40 or would he insist on being an EOW Disney Dad?

Womanaintafeeling · 18/03/2022 16:10

Last night I did say that if for some reason the children were between two homes, (not mentioning the D word), he'd have to step up and sort them out for a good proportion of the time and I wouldn't be there to pick up any slack.

His thoughts are that he does loads....and I think more likely to fit into the EOW Disney Dad. And he is adamant that I would need to leave the family home....

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Throckmorton · 18/03/2022 16:15

I'd start making notes of exactly what he does and doesn't do (what time her gets home from work each day for eg), so you have a record if it comes to divorce and custody and who keeps the house

Annasgirl · 18/03/2022 16:15

See. Solicitor, do not leave your home.

I get the feeling he was always like this and you allowed him to blame it on the stress of his really important job. Well, he changed career but didn’t change his personality so he won’t change for you.

Leave (the marriage, not the house) and at least you won’t be angry all the time. Yes you will be a line parent, but you won’t have to deal with the resentment of having him there.

Boating123 · 18/03/2022 16:21

Have you tried to give him concrete jobs for him to always do?
If its part of his routine to always do them you should need to ask e.g take bins out, whatever.
I don't think the status quo can continue forever.

Boating123 · 18/03/2022 16:22

Shouldn't need to ask.

Blanca87 · 18/03/2022 16:25

Honestly he sounds like an entitled fuckwit, life would be so much easier without him. I think you need to stop giving him power too. You move out, ha! Nah don’t think so…

Womanaintafeeling · 18/03/2022 16:29

@Boating123
Yes tried, that after showing that I was stuck with a lot more responsibility at home even though I have a much longer working week....i.e. no free time at all.

HE had the bins, school admin and supervising homework, after school things until I get in from work.
He just didn't do it. I had a note from the school about homework not being completed, missed reading and various things.

My 7 year old gets anxious if I'm away on school nights because he knows that dad will not do certain things, even though there's post-its, and a big list on the fridge, reminders in online calendars.

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FairyCakeWings · 18/03/2022 16:30

Teaching was never going to be a career that gives anyone a good work life balance and tbh I can see why he doesn’t contribute much during term time weeks.

The holidays are only ever seven weeks apart max, so what’s he like in the school holidays? If he improves then and pulls his weight doing most things at home while you’re still working, then I think you do just have to accept that life is busy when two people are working more than full time with young children and lower your standards a bit for a few years.

Does he literally do nothing, or does he just have lower standards than you?

It sounds like this is about more than who’s doing the most housework.

minmooch · 18/03/2022 16:32

Believe me you will find it easier on your own. Living with a 'partner' who does not do their fair share is much more draining than doing it on your own. You can organise things to suit your own timing, without that dragging feeling that someone else is not doing their bit.

You won't feel that resentment.

NeverChange · 18/03/2022 16:33

He's a teacher who can't be bothered to help his own kids with homework?

Sounds like you have given your marraige your all. Supported him in his career change, stepped up financially to facilitate that, run the house, mind the kids etc.....what does he do to support you?

NoSquirrels · 18/03/2022 16:34

None of the flexibility or load-sharing promised along with his career move has materialised. I've had 4 days off work this week with the kids having Covid. HE has gone to work because teachers don't take time off during the term. I am going to have to work this weekend...

Well, thinking that becoming a teacher would be great for work-life balance was a big mistake. If he’s relatively new in his teaching career it will be full on in termtime and yes, teachers don’t take time off. The flip side is the school holiday care is 100% sorted.

However, why are you doing all the after-school caring, not concentrating on your breadwinner job? You need childcare after school. Working 8pm till late on a split shift is a quick route to burnout. Get childcare.

He works late and arrives just as the kids are going to bed.

name-calling, sulking or him going off to the gym.

His weekends are spent on his phone, moaning about the sport on tv and how the kids hassle him to do stuff

His weekends are spent on his phone, moaning about the sport on tv and how the kids hassle him to do stuff.

All completely unacceptable.

I’d take the ‘huge lifestyle changes’ option TBH. You’re doing it all already. A court order for allocated days of the week and Disney Dad weekends where you can recover in peace sounds like an upgrade.

I agree with a PP he’s always been like this, but now there’s no excuses of being the Big I Am Breadwinner to hide behind.

Womanaintafeeling · 18/03/2022 16:37

The kids are in school camps, sports things for around 70% of the school holidays. 4 year old went to a childminder every pm as DH couldn't handle having him all day. (Too young for camps.)

Nothing gets done in the house during this time .....dishwashers run, washing out on or dried, house admin like sorting MOTs on cars.

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NoSquirrels · 18/03/2022 16:38

My 7 year old gets anxious if I'm away on school nights because he knows that dad will not do certain things, even though there's post-its, and a big list on the fridge, reminders in online calendars.

Whilst this is shit, and no one wants their 7 year old to feel anxious, you simply can’t take on doing it all because of that. What needs doing that’s an adult’s job?

NoSquirrels · 18/03/2022 16:39

@Womanaintafeeling

The kids are in school camps, sports things for around 70% of the school holidays. 4 year old went to a childminder every pm as DH couldn't handle having him all day. (Too young for camps.)

Nothing gets done in the house during this time .....dishwashers run, washing out on or dried, house admin like sorting MOTs on cars.

Jesus.

Get divorced. Why wouldn’t you?

belle40 · 18/03/2022 16:46

I'm not married and my child is approaching 7. I'm applying for more senior positions which will also require relocation (if successful). We have no help / contact from the father and I have made it work in a similar way to you. Because we live in a very expensive area, one of the reasons I am looking to relocate is to be able to afford reasonable house / cleaner and ? Au pair type help on my salary. I am anxious about applying for a more senior role but I think this way it will work more effectively than working until silly o clock. Would you be able to set up a different pattern of work and pay for help if you left your husband? He sounds like an arse.

Howeverdoyouneedme · 18/03/2022 16:46

Get divorced. Why should you beg for help?

FairyCakeWings · 18/03/2022 16:47

@Womanaintafeeling

The kids are in school camps, sports things for around 70% of the school holidays. 4 year old went to a childminder every pm as DH couldn't handle having him all day. (Too young for camps.)

Nothing gets done in the house during this time .....dishwashers run, washing out on or dried, house admin like sorting MOTs on cars.

In that case, ignore my earlier attempt at giving him the benefit of the doubt and seriously think about what life could be like on your own. It sounds like he’d see more of his kids if he didn’t live with them.
yellowbridgebang · 18/03/2022 16:49

Retraining as a teacher was never going to be less stressful - did he honestly think it would be? Did either of you not look in to it first? Zero flexibility, massive workload and stress and huge pressure (which he's probably taking out on you)

But he's taking the piss in the holidays. That should be his time to shine.

He obviously doesn't see finding solutions to all this an issue so on that basis I'd separate and get a custody agreement that is 50/50. You'll be much happier and less resentful.

Womanaintafeeling · 18/03/2022 16:49

I would like some teamwork such as sorting the weekly grocery order, or click and collect it on his way home, putting the order away.
Putting the kids to bed 50% of the time....it also means they get to see him.
Dealing with school admin, he teaches at the secondary next door to the kids school - he knows a lot of staff there and it's a 30 second walk to reception to hand in/pick up stuff.
And the holiday camps/childminder costs are silly considering there is a parent at home, off work.

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sunisblinding · 18/03/2022 16:53

He sounds like a shit husband.

PinkSyCo · 18/03/2022 16:54

The fact that your husband does absolutely nothing in the holidays and even farms out the 4 year old gives me the rage! What an absolute sorry excuse of a husband and father. I would rather be alone than live with someone like that OP.

DontLookBackInAnger1 · 18/03/2022 16:54

It doesn't sound like he has depression.

Does he want to help? Has he offered to look at your chart to see where he can help?

SmallOrFarAway · 18/03/2022 16:54

My life sounded like yours when I was still with my exH. We had lists of chores up, he ignored. Shared online calendar, he ignored. Post it notes, text alerts etc etc, all ignored. Everything became my job. If I raised it, he'd say 'we'll all you need to do is ask.' But the point is, why should I have to ask? The mental load was insane and his priority was his own mental health. Since splitting he has moved out into his own home and had to sort his shit out and somehow now he doesn't have his servant on call (me) he can manage to tidy (a bit) and run a dishwasher and entertain the kids more than 10 mins at a time without calling on me for help. I am feeling so much more peaceful as any jobs that need doing are mine and I can just crack on. I didn't realise my own mental health had been in the toilet for years and now I feel so much more energised without his clutter and moods and weaponised incompetence dragging me down. If I've tidied, things mostly stay tidy! If it's bin day, I just put the bins out! If there's DIY to be done I just do it or call someone who can! It's so much better, and there's no resentment building that 'I did the bins the last X weeks, he should do it, I've asked him twice, do I really need to ask him again' and so on. If he's not willing to change then separating may be your only option because you can't carry on like this.

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