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This is just shocking (trigger warning -racism)

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iloverock · 15/03/2022 18:19

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/department-for-education-metropolitan-police-services-scotland-yard-hackney-b988292.html

Please read the formal review.

Essentially the teaching staff called the police because a black 15 year old girl smelt of cannabis. She was taken to a room and strip searched. She was on her period. Her mother wasn't notified. She was not given the opportunity for an appropriate adult to be present.

OP posts:
2DemisSVP · 15/03/2022 19:55

That’s completely shocking. In the truest sense of the world. All adults involved should be sacked. Wow. That’s just unreal that could happen. Poor girl.

Blimpop · 15/03/2022 19:55

@NippyWoowoo
Sadly, it's not just one on this thread.

GalactatingGoddess · 15/03/2022 19:55

Vile, strip searched as a child with no adults present??
No one stepped in to say that it was out of order.
On her period and probably incredibly degraded and humiliated.
Parents not made aware of it.

That poor girl. Can't believe it was female officers as well, and all over some alleged cannabis smell ?!?

Helleofabore · 15/03/2022 19:56

I read this today. It is truly horrific. Just horrific OP. And they even made her open her anus to check.

OpheliaThrupps · 15/03/2022 19:56

@BlanketsBanned

have the POs been sacked yet
I'm sorry to say that that abbreviation seems particularly appropriate.
BeingATwatItsABingThing · 15/03/2022 19:56

Whilst I hope I am never in the situation to find out, I would hope that I would have the good sense to step in as her teacher and refuse to let this happen without her parents there. Or just at all. If a child (even a 14yo) in my class smelled of cannabis, it would be a safeguarding concern and I would treat it as such rather than cause more safeguarding concerns of enforcing a strip search. Angry

canary1 · 15/03/2022 19:57

This is assault and they need appropriate punishment. An apology ffs. This should be the top of the news and those involved brought to justice. Sick bastards.

endofthelinefinally · 15/03/2022 19:57

Not only racist but sexual assault of a child as well. Just horrific.

Toomanyradishes · 15/03/2022 19:57

The City & Hackney Safeguarding Children Partnership conducted a review and found the same event would likely not have occured if she was white aka rasist. But sure come on here without reading all the evidence, conducting a review and claim its not rasist. Because thats not an idiotic stanc to take Hmm

PourSomeLove · 15/03/2022 19:58

Horrific behaviour but not racist just cause she is black. Could easily have been a white girl.

And another. 🙄

The investigation didn’t seem to think it would have happened to a white girl. And I and many other posters here don’t believe that either. I don’t think it’s naivety that’s making you say such things, so what is it? 🤔

Testingprof · 15/03/2022 19:58

@Curioushorse

I can't fathom the stages involved in this.

I've dealt with several incidents where a student has been caught with drugs and wouldn't hand them over. This....just isn't procedural. This isn't what happens! I don't get it. This is obviously horrendous but I feel like it's even worse than it sounds because this isn't right. A couple of the kids we caught were dealing, and we knew had rather a lot, so police were involved. This is so far from what happened it's just batshit.

And yes it was the Met I dealt with. It's also not particularly relevant, but in the cases I dealt with none of the kids were white- though they were all male.

It’s worth understanding how racism affects different races differently. This is an American link but highlights that although both groups are affected by racism they are manifested differently. www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks?t=1647374206379
BloodyN0rah · 15/03/2022 19:59

I’m thinking back to being 15, I nearly died of shame if someone spotted me carrying a tampon into the loo (I’m over it now). This would be devastating at any age but……I just can’t even……

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/03/2022 19:59

Most racists are a bit thick @Toomanyradishes.

kazzer2867 · 15/03/2022 19:59

@SlashBeef

As a POC no I'm not that shocked, sadly.
100% this. Not shocked at all.
canary1 · 15/03/2022 19:59

Erm who cares what their stupid review found. This was a disgusting assault on this poor girl. This was a crime.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 15/03/2022 19:59

Section 5 is appropriately acerbic about the need for a re-write and reconsideration of a lot of the relevant guidance.

That said, it's scrupulous about not exonerating anyone who should have used their commonsense (I paraphrase).

RandomBasic · 15/03/2022 20:00

@BOOTS52
I would have refused and requested my mum

  • I would have screamed
  • I would have fought back
  • I wouldn't put up with xyz, I would have left the first time...

Stop victim blaming.

Also modern psychology has the 'fight or flight' response as 'fight, flight, freeze, appease.'

Without extensive training, it is a roll of the dice how an individual will respond to a traumatic situation.

That's why soldiers, emergency service people are trained again and again, drilled, about how to act in crisis situations, so that their training kicks in and not their natural response, which could be anything.

OvaHere · 15/03/2022 20:00

@BeingATwatItsABingThing

Whilst I hope I am never in the situation to find out, I would hope that I would have the good sense to step in as her teacher and refuse to let this happen without her parents there. Or just at all. If a child (even a 14yo) in my class smelled of cannabis, it would be a safeguarding concern and I would treat it as such rather than cause more safeguarding concerns of enforcing a strip search. Angry
This is what I can't understand. Why the hell teachers were calling police in the first place? Because of a smell or perceived smell? Should hardly be the first course of action with a child if there are concerns. She was failed by so many adults who should have known better than allow it to get to the point it did.
ScrollingLeaves · 15/03/2022 20:02

That is one of the most abusive acts I have ever heard of. I can well imagine that that girl will never get over this.

Copin · 15/03/2022 20:02

Shocking, but not shocked.

I’m not in the UK but perhaps a GoFundMe or alike to cover legal costs for suing the police/school would be helpful (if there isn’t one already)?

Runaround50 · 15/03/2022 20:04

Bloody hell, that’s a real disgrace!
I have zero respect for the police, but the teachers are even worse in this situation!

Poor poor girl.. how utterly humiliating for her.. 😢😢

canary1 · 15/03/2022 20:04

Sorry I thought the review was denying it was racist.
But where’s the case for bringing those who assaulted this girl to justice and due punishment.

PunishmentSnart · 15/03/2022 20:07

Disgusting and horrendous, yes. Shocking, sadly not. I work in an area where I hear things about police abusing their power daily.

This is very, very sad. Poor girl

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 15/03/2022 20:08

@canary1

Sorry I thought the review was denying it was racist. But where’s the case for bringing those who assaulted this girl to justice and due punishment.
Section 5.68—5.70 (latter 2 quoted below).

5.69 Indeed, the review and reference panel held a firm view that had Child Q not been Black, then her experiences are unlikely to have been the same. This view is broadly supported when looking at the disproportionality evidenced in a previous inspection of custody suites in the MPS. Undertaken by HMICFRS and HM Inspectorate of Prisons in 201829, this inspection found clear evidence of a disproportionate approach in this area of practice. ‘Force data indicated that the numbers of strip searches were high and included many children and a significantly higher proportion of black and minority ethnic detainees compared against the overall throughput. We concluded that overall not all strip searches were warranted or properly justified.’

5.70 The full reasons behind why racism continues to feature in professional safeguarding practice are without doubt wide-ranging and complex. The review is simply unable to de-construct all these areas within this report

Copin · 15/03/2022 20:08

RichPetunia
Seems extreme. Where’s the evidence this happened?
Imagine being this much of a cunt.