House guest sneakily adding your wifi to their phone is rude yes?

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I mean, I don't mind any guest accessing my wifi BUT at least ask right?

Fucking ridiculous.

Ah, this thread has cheered up my lunchtime. Priceless. 😂
Imagine living your life this uptight.

I see it as being on the same level as a guest spotting your toilet at the end of the hall and just going and using it, rather than asking "do you mind if I use your toilet?" I.e., it might be commonplace to ask first, but in reality the host is never going to say no you can't use it, so you might as well just use it. I think in this day and age letting people connect to your wifi is just standard.

The position of your router makes a difference to how rude it is, as does how well you know the person. For example, my router is in full view in the entrance hall. But if it's the gas man come to read your meter and he's gone up to your bedroom and rooting behind your chest of drawers to get to the router then yeah, that would be weird.

But if it's a close friend or relative then I really struggle to see how it could be considered rude and I really could not get worked up over it.

@HELLITHURT

*As my mum would say, 'manners cost nothing either'. It's good manners to ask before you using something that doesn't belong to you.*

As my mum would say, if you have a guest in your home you ensure they feel welcome.

Even rude and obnoxious ones ?

@HELLITHURT

*As my mum would say, 'manners cost nothing either'. It's good manners to ask before you using something that doesn't belong to you.*

As my mum would say, if you have a guest in your home you ensure they feel welcome.

Please could you give us a list of what you need to do to make your guests feel welcome? How about: "Hello, Here's the wifi code. Do come in. Keep your coat and shoes on if you want. Or not. Want some guest slippers? Or not? Here's the drinks menu, what would you like? Cake, biscuits, full roast? Want to use the loo and soap (not Baylis and Harding). Want a blanket, fan, window open or closed? Here is a book shelf for your toddler to thrash and a sofa for him to smear chocolate on. Nice to see you" Being the perfect host to suit everyone 's requirements sounds exhausting.

@Satsumaeater

OP how did you know they were using your wifi? Do you check your wifi for the devices using it on a regular basis?

Good question! Or else I guess the guest said something like - hope you don’t mind, I logged on to your WiFi. In which case, as most have pointed out, not sneaky at all. In the Former case it would be the OP being sneaky if anything

They'd not get very far in my house if they went with the passcode on the back of the router - I always change it and don't write it down anywhere.

They'd have to ask me for it if I hadn't remembered to give it already. Then I'd enter it into their device directly so they still won't know the actual password. It's a complex password, so easier if I just type it in myself.

I freely offer the wifi password to friends whenever they come over!

They might need to check their email/messages/have rubbish signal, whatever.

Why wouldn’t you. I often check my phone at a friend’s house when they’ve nipped to the loo or whatever just in case my husband or nursery have messaged me or something.

You sound mean OP. I wouldn’t fancy being your mate

I’d consider this no more cheeky than using my heating. It’s just a utility to me!

It's not rude What planet are you on?

@FinallyHere

The password for our WiFi is pinned up over the light switch on our spare room. I usually remember to offer to press the button to connect easily. The code is pinned up incase I forget and then only remember after going to bed.

Water, electricity, WiFi all freely available to house guests.

@FinallyHere

I appear to have become a technology 🦕.

So I have to ask (sorry) what do you mean by 'press the button'?

Do you mind if they use your water too? Your toilet roll? Your soap?

It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. Perhaps if it was a stranger who had come j to my house - but then I wouldn’t expect them to go marching off to use the toilet without asking either.

Code is on the fridge at my partner's house and on a sticker in the front room at mine... isn't it normal for guests to use it? We don't have bandwidth charges in the UK!

@Makeitsoso

I’d consider this no more cheeky than using my heating. It’s just a utility to me!

But you don't need to snoop around to "find the heating code"

@EverNapping

YABU for having not changed the details from those that came with the box. If you can't be bothered with that, they can assume you don't care about people using it.

@EverNapping

Ok going in for the second 🦕 question...

Why do you think you need to change the details the router comes with?

@mam0918

I don't really have house guests so never been an issue but if I liked someone enough to let them stay I can't imagine I would begrudge them WIFI.

It would be hard for them to 'sneakily' add it though as we don't have passwords ect... you need the code that is on the credit card bit that is in the actual hub which is in the middle of the living room to add it to a new device.

The code bit you're talking is the password, so you do have a password. That's what that is.

@Sarahcoggles

How did they get the code? I wouldn't mind a guest using my wifi unless they were doing something that massively slowed the internet down for the rest of us.

Me neither! I always give them the code.

Why on earth are you still using the passcode on the back of the router anyway? Please don't do that.

When you install a new router you should change both the SSID and the Wi-Fi password.

@Teastheword snoop? Such drama, looked at the router surely?

Snoop

@Carrotten

Anyone who comes to my house is welcome to use my WiFi. In the same way they can use my bathroom, drink my water. I wouldnt expect them to ask. They are also welcome to charge their phone if they've bought a charger.

I always find these threads weird. Who comes round your house that's not a friend or family member?

My friend has workmen, childcare, medical people, social workers, teachers and a vicar in her house. Sometimes a cleaner.

Is this day and age - no. In the same way they don't have to ask me before using my power to charge their phone either.

@HermioneKipper

I freely offer the wifi password to friends whenever they come over!

They might need to check their email/messages/have rubbish signal, whatever.

Why wouldn’t you. I often check my phone at a friend’s house when they’ve nipped to the loo or whatever just in case my husband or nursery have messaged me or something.

You sound mean OP. I wouldn’t fancy being your mate

Do you greet them at the door with it ? Hello Susan, the WiFi code is xxxxxx It almost feels like some people don't much rate their own company much and have to give out WIFI passwords, so their guests can entertain themselves when they get bored of them.

[quote HELLITHURT]@Teastheword snoop? Such drama, looked at the router surely?

Snoop [/quote]
Well, the OP said her guest found it "sneakily" so I assume there must have been some snooping going on ;)

Follow up as @FantasticFebruary asked - couple of reasons for a start: for routers that come with the access details stamped on the side, one batch can have identical or sequential info (making it easy for hackers there), and you may have no idea who has had visibility of that info before dispatch.

@FantasticFebruary Some (maybe even most) routers will now have a button marked 'WPS' (WiFi Protected Setup) to make connecting easier. Instead of having to type the password when connecting a new device, pressing the WPS allows a new device (with the WPS capability) to connect to the network without having to type the password.

It reduces the dis-incentives to having a strong, un-guessable password because there is no need to type the complicated password when adding a new device.

wpsbutton.com/wps-button-on-router/

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