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to think that we have a chance in Eurovision this year

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Polyanthus2 · 10/03/2022 18:46

news.sky.com/story/eurovision-tiktok-singing-sensation-sam-ryder-will-perform-for-uk-with-track-space-man-12562140

Good looking and a good voice - I'm not on tiktok so this singer is new to me!
Even the song seems ok!

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Shmithecat2 · 10/03/2022 19:18

@dangerrabbit

No because the votes are political not about the "music"
This.
WeDontShutUpAboutBruno · 10/03/2022 19:18

@ThanksItHasPockets

I take it everyone is familiar with Latvia's entry?
Yes, I imagine it will be edited like Scooch had to be 🤣 Spain (I think) has a pretty risqué number too.
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Polyanthus2 · 10/03/2022 19:18

Latvia
Oh when you eat your Veggieeees
Baby think of meeee......

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SwedishEdith · 10/03/2022 19:18

Oh, I think it's pretty good. Shock

There's some politics in the voting but the UK gets nil points because we send shit songs. That's the main reason.

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Polyanthus2 · 10/03/2022 19:18

Ooops link

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JustLurkingAway · 10/03/2022 19:21

See Latvia might be weird but it's bloody memorableGrin

Bitofachinwag · 10/03/2022 19:21

@MrsTerryPratchett

I do think it would help if the UK Eurovision commentators didn't make derogatory remarks about other countries. The comments can be quite rude and would never be accepted on UK based shows like Strictly and the Masked Singer.

No way I would have watched it without Wogan's hilarious drunken digs. That's why it's a cult classic.

Yes, well, in most of the other countries people don't think it's "hilarious" to poke fun at other languages, cultures and music tastes.
SwedishEdith · 10/03/2022 19:22

@WeDontShutUpAboutBruno

That's how Eurovision is won. Nothing to do with music anymore.

Its a bit better since they changed the voting, I wish they would do it on the public votes alone though.

Oh, no. I love the new voting system. So dramatic Grin.

Didn't the UK win more often when a) there were hardly any countries competing and b) it was a jury system. We just got cocky and sent crap songs.

thecatsthecats · 10/03/2022 19:22

Britain are the default host, therefore we're probably more in with a shout to host it on behalf of/in collaboration with Ukraine if they were unable host next year.

But yes, the "it's all political" commenter haven't being paying attention. Iceland were widely regarded as a shoe in before 2020 was cancelled. Israel have no neighbours in the contest and won 2018. Italy won 2021 because there was bound to be a rock resurgence sooner or later. Malta did really well last year, and Albania did terribly in spite of bringing Flo Rider and having a slew of near neighbours.

All the winning acts generally have a rigorous selection process in common. We send whoever the BBC deem appropriate - we did fairly well when we set carefully chosen acts.

However, this guy is good! Certainly should pick up a few points from the jury votes at least.

Bitofachinwag · 10/03/2022 19:23

@Tillymintpolo

No ones saying the Baltic states always win, rather that neighbour voting didn’t exist as much in the 70’s and 80’s. The former Yugoslav states vote for each other, the Scandinavian states too, turkey and Germany vote for each other, as do Greece and Cyprus. Some of these countries either didn’t exist or didn’t partake in the competition in the past when we supposedly did better
I think you need to take a closer look at the statistics.
WeDontShutUpAboutBruno · 10/03/2022 19:24

I got some real second hand embarrassment when Flo Rida came out last year, so many questions, how and why being top of the list 🤣🤣

SpiderinaWingMirror · 10/03/2022 19:24

No fucking chance
You could have Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles performing and we would still come last.
We used to blame the jury system, til it became a public vote and it was blatant that entire populations hated us. And that was before brexit.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/03/2022 19:25

Yes, well, in most of the other countries people don't think it's "hilarious" to poke fun at other languages, cultures and music tastes.

Nonsense. The Italians the the French are a European example and there are lots more. Everyone laughs at German music. I've lived in a few countries and they ALL laugh at someone.

Bitofachinwag · 10/03/2022 19:26

@SpiderinaWingMirror

No fucking chance You could have Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles performing and we would still come last. We used to blame the jury system, til it became a public vote and it was blatant that entire populations hated us. And that was before brexit.
Perhaps they just don't like the music?
WindsweptNotInteresting · 10/03/2022 19:26

@SwedishEdith

Oh, I think it's pretty good. Shock

There's some politics in the voting but the UK gets nil points because we send shit songs. That's the main reason.

Yes, this! There is some political voting, but actually nowhere near as much as there used to be 10 years ago.

Our songs are just a bit meh. The last 2 were just bland and don't get me started on Englebert Bloody Humperdinck!

I think we prefer to think it's because the other countries have it in for us than actually reflect on the fact that many countries have massively upped their game and we haven't followed suit.

They have stage shows or even just a refined simplicity that our acts don't have. Ours threw in the massive trumpet at the last minute last year!

Bitofachinwag · 10/03/2022 19:26

@MrsTerryPratchett

Yes, well, in most of the other countries people don't think it's "hilarious" to poke fun at other languages, cultures and music tastes.

Nonsense. The Italians the the French are a European example and there are lots more. Everyone laughs at German music. I've lived in a few countries and they ALL laugh at someone.

No they don't.
ClemFandangoo · 10/03/2022 19:28

If the songs were anonymous yes but unfortunately we’re U.K. so no 😂

SwedishEdith · 10/03/2022 19:28

There was a great Twitter thread last year explaining with some music theory about why the UK keeps getting it wrong. We keep using major keys and more winners use minor keys.

twitter.com/kitlochery/status/1396160993504415744?s=20&t=Rmu9b1Ktkhy7ekvJ2h5TAg

Looks like there was a More of Less episode as well www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07b8b2c

KatherineJaneway · 10/03/2022 19:31

I heard the song and am not a fan but we'd come near bottom anyway even if Adele entered.

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Polyanthus2 · 10/03/2022 19:38

I think our songs have been pretty bad.
I don't know why as we produce probably the best song writers and singers in the world compared to other countries

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MrsTerryPratchett · 10/03/2022 19:39

No they don't.

Solid point, well argued Hmm

WeDontShutUpAboutBruno · 10/03/2022 19:39

Maybe the powers that be don't want us to win because it will be too expensive to host?

ClemFandangoo · 10/03/2022 19:40

@Polyanthus2

I think our songs have been pretty bad. I don't know why as we produce probably the best song writers and singers in the world compared to other countries
I don’t think you can enter established singers but if we did we’d win every time. I think the difference is that the Eurovision entries are played on neighbouring countries radio stations and well, we don’t have any neighbours.
WeDontShutUpAboutBruno · 10/03/2022 19:45

There have been loads of established singers, from the UK there was Katrina and the Waves, Engie Humperdink, Bonnie Tyler, Blue, then there was Jedward, Tatu, Little Big were entered in 2020. Beverly Knight and Jusin thingy out the Darkness went for it one year, as did Katie Price. We could enter anyone. It's whether anyone would actually go for it is the problem 🤣

Bitofachinwag · 10/03/2022 19:45

@MrsTerryPratchett

No they don't.

Solid point, well argued Hmm

Thank youGrin