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I don't think all men 18-60 should be forced to fight and not allowed to leave Ukraine. It should be the choice of individual men and women.

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Jjjayfee · 07/03/2022 22:17

I just saw a young father in tears as he said goodbye to his wife and baby. He is not allowed to leave Ukraine, but has to stay and fight. I think it should be a choice of individual men and women.

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latetothefisting · 09/03/2022 19:30

@sashh

Also most evacuees were still sent within their own country, where their foster families spoke the same language as them, and (because we hadn't been invaded) could return at any point if their parents wanted them to come back.

Not sent to a completely random country with different languages and customs and no way of returning home.

Have you heard of the Kinder transport?

The children who were evacuated from the Channel Islands did not all speak English and many were housed in Scotland, that must have been a culture shock, maybe not on the same scale but huge for a small child who then had no contact with their parents for years.

On the point of women combatants, there are some women who can do it, as a PP mentioned the marines but there are other roles women have played in war.

In WWII women drove ambulances from the front line to hospitals not far behind, spies have always been of both sexes, the 'night witches' who were an all female bombing division in the soviet forces in WWII.

do you not understand the meaning of the word 'most'? It's not the same as 'all' if that helps. I believe the figures are approx 10,000 in kindertransport, and 3.5million children evacuated within the uk. small amount to america and canada. 3.5million is significantly bigger than 10,000 (and this is a UK centred site which was why I was referring to uk evacuees) thus 'most.'

My family actually were refugees from Jersey during ww2 - most people did speak sufficient english even if they were bilingual. I haven't heard of any going to Scotland but even so I think that's definitely NOT on the same scale, distance, language, or culture wise, as ukraine - UK!

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/03/2022 04:57

@DolphinFC

Many people clearly believe that a battlefield is no place for a woman. Woman aren't strong enough - that point has been made several times.
Women aren't as strong as men. That's not sexist to say, it's just true. Men are physically stronger and have larger hearts/lungs.
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Delphinium20 · 11/03/2022 05:37

For 76 of those 100 years, they did not have a choice. Women in America could not get birth control without their husband's consent, nor get an abortion until 1974.

Delphinium20 · 11/03/2022 05:38

My bad, 74 years.

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