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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

411 replies

Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

OP posts:
7eleven · 28/02/2022 09:22

You’ve handled the situation brilliantly OP. WELL DONE 👍

TheBestofTimesTheWorstofTimes · 28/02/2022 09:30

@3luckystars sadly I bet there are loads of them!

Thankfully though @Mogs43 hasn't enabled this version, whereas the OP on the other thread gave the impression she thought it was a sweet and somewhat endearing side of the grown up child's personality Hmm

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 28/02/2022 09:35

Well done @Mogs43 - the right decision, I think.

BIrthday girl can jolly well sort herself out, and you can meet the family member you want to see on your own terms.

Brava! Thanks

Heronwatcher · 28/02/2022 09:38

Don’t go. Say something’s come up. If you still want to go on the visit, arrange very low key and just meet your other friends for a coffee or in a very child focussed place for a slice of cake etc.

PandemicAtTheDisco · 28/02/2022 09:47

I had a rich work colleague who coasted through life with the same approach - but arranging discounted trips/coach fares/tickets etc then pocketing all the excess money and not paying a thing herself.

She seemed to have lots of friends doing free favours that she'd then charge others for without their knowledge. She constantly got out of paying for herself and then her children.

I think if you are attractive and popular then it's easier to get away with this kind of behaviour.

BagelandEggs · 28/02/2022 17:42

Well done on sorting the situation. It was spiralling out of control and stopping it can seem a big task but you faced it head on and in future hopefully she will see that she can't take you for granted any more. It's time for you to focus on the positive people in your life and not let the negative takers treat you badly. All the best of the future x

Sooziewoozie · 28/02/2022 17:45

Wow wow! You are being utterly taken advantage of! As others have said already I would say that the restaurant has no further availability of not what you have already booked. Suggest that you meet up at somebody's house another time for a cup of tea as you'd love to see them. There is absolutely no way on this earth that you should have to pay for everyone. I'm so sorry for your loss

Hmm1234 · 28/02/2022 17:46

Gosh sounds like an episode of TOWIE

Laurie000 · 28/02/2022 17:47

Reply back to her and say something like “oh good idea to ask about a deal. Will you be paying by cash or card? You might get a better deal if it’s by cash.” Flip it round on her that she would be paying for the whole meal. See how eager she is to have a birthday meal then.

Teatotal2 · 28/02/2022 17:50

@Rainbowqueeen

💐 op. You’ve been through a tough time.

If you are feeling isolated and lonely you do need to put on your big girl pants and stand up for yourself here. The last thing you need is to upset the people who are supporting you
I would mute the drama queens social media so you can’t see anything she posts. Do you have time to see her separately on this trip? If so, text and say the restaurant can’t fit such a large group so we need a new plan. Then offer what suits you - eg coffee, pop over with a cake, pop over with wine and a takeaway. If nothing suits her, just say ok I understand you are busy would love to catch up another time. Send her a card (flowers or a gift if you wish but it’s not required).

Stick to the original plan with your other family member.

Sorry for your loss.

^This & I am sorry for your loss💐 you sound lovely & considerate and I'm sure the rest of the hangers on family members will see the reality of the situation💕
Yayhelen · 28/02/2022 17:51

I would just check with the venue that they accept mixed methods of payment and get a copy of the menu, then just start a WhatsApp/Group chat with whoever you have numbers for along the lines of:

Really looking forward to seeing you all, will be great to catch up with everyone! I have chosen X venue and they accept multiple methods of payment which is great.

I have attached a menu so that you can see the prices and make choices in advance if you want to, just to make settling them bill a bit easier 😊

This makes it clear you’re not paying and expect everyone to pay for themselves.

Message the friend you initially intended to pay for separately and just say it’s your treat.

Best to be clear on these things, no-one can state they expected it to be paid for.

Yayhelen · 28/02/2022 17:51

Just read the last few posts and think I have missed something since OP so ignore me! I will catch up!

Teatotal2 · 28/02/2022 17:55

Sorry! Late with my reply, so glad you're sorted😊

FortniteBoysMum · 28/02/2022 17:58

I would send a text to her saying that given how she has turned this into her birthday meal rather than you visiting a relative you take it everyone is paying their own way.

LoisLane66 · 28/02/2022 18:02

I think we (and you) know that you'll give in and allow that person to hijack your weekend, you'll foot the bill even if it leaves you short and a because you don't want to be seen as 'tight' on social media. There's no answer that will change your mind as you aren't up for telling the truth. Your popularity is at stake and thst us more important to you than having the balls to tell her that it's out of control, she had no right whatsoever to invite others and that your budget isn't going to cover more than you paying for the original relative who was invited by you.
So whatever we say or advise, it's a waste of time. We know it and so do you so why ask?

Wordlewobble · 28/02/2022 18:05

Agree with @violetbunny. This is the way you should handle it exactly to avoid any misunderstandings.

‘There's no pussyfooting around with people like this. Think of it this way OP, she's hardly been considerate of you so don't feel like you need to tiptoe around her! Honestly I'd just say that there's been a misunderstanding and a big get together with lots of people isn't what you'd had in mind and is out of your budget, so it needs to be rearranged on another date and everyone needs to pay for themselves’.

BoodleBug51 · 28/02/2022 18:06

Text the CF'er and say that you're worried that the amount of guests has got out of hand, it's not how you wanted a memorial for your father to be so it's best that she makes that event her birthday party and that you'll arrange to meet up at some other point that weekend.

Then arrange to meet your original friend separately.

Thehop · 28/02/2022 18:07

“Restaurant have offered a set menu at £30 per head. Would need paying to book so need payment and a decision by Tuesday. Let me know what you all want to do”

Noo3329 · 28/02/2022 18:08

Please don't let people take the piss out of you, they are testing your tolerance. Do a breezy...no, cant fit us all in, lets just rearrange and then dont! Please don't allow people to dance over you, it just leaves you feeling used, you sound like a lovely person and only decent people will deserve your friendship x x goodluck

LoisLane66 · 28/02/2022 18:10

Well, I'm so glad to be proved wrong. Well done OP and I hope the re- scheduled weekend is enjoyable and everything you hoped for.
Given that you took the first steps to being stronger and assertive in a kind way, I'm sure that a brighter and more sociable future is on the cards.
Best wishes 💐

Islandgirl68 · 28/02/2022 18:10

Could you organise a getogether with the people you originally invited at their house, and treat them to a takeaway, then cancel the restaurant that way people can't invite themselves to someone's house. Good luck.

Bugbabe1970 · 28/02/2022 18:14

I'd cancel and just see the original family member

Thinking2022 · 28/02/2022 18:15

please don't go that weekend. Cancel your plans. Find another weekend. This time let the people you want to catch up with know you would just like to see them and will arrange drinks in the pub for a wider group and make it clear to the bar staff you are not running a tab.

Loreleigh · 28/02/2022 18:21

I agree with the majority - stick to your original plans or make alternative arrangements with the small group - tell them to keep the arrangements to themselves and not to invite anyone else.

As for the CF 'family'....people like this do not understand, or choose to ignore, tactful suggestions, hints etc...you need to be quite blunt and just tell them it is not happening, you are not hosting, you are not there to throw them any party (birthday or otherwise), you will not be sidelined over lunch/dinner and you most certainly will not be paying for a free-for-all meal. If others still think a big get-together is on the cards sent a text saying no way, someone obviously got the wrong end of the stick and let things spiral out of control but to be clear this was not, and is not, your idea and you will not be paying for a massive family meal.

People have already suggested assertive, clear ways of wording a refusal to be taken advantage of - don't leave any 'wiggle room' - be firm, stand up for yourself:
NO big gathering
NO free meal
NO hosting/paying for everyone
NO CF birthday party at your expense
NO, you don't care if they are 'offended'....tough love!

If people still don't get it, blank them, cancel/rearrange with the people you do want to meet up with and let the rest of the CF's sort themselves out (and bloody pay for themselves)

Personally I'd forget tactful and tell them all to go f**k themselves...sometimes it is the only way to get a message across leaving no room for 'misunderstanding' I feel a bit angry on your behalf! Flowers

ViceLikeBlip · 28/02/2022 18:23

Omg people are awful! She makes the "guests list" and then you foot the bill??

No need to be kind/tactful to such a CF, I'm guessing she has the skin of a rhino anyway. Just tell her that you were never expecting to pay for up to 15 people, and that you won't be paying.

And with the original lovely friend, just explain the situation honestly - I'm sure she'll understand.

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