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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

OP posts:
ugifletzet · 27/02/2022 17:14

@Howshouldibehave

Nearly 300 replies and not one more post from the OP?

Are you out there, @Mogs43?

OP created the thread just after midnight and around 15:00 people started conplaining that she hadn't replied and asking if this was genuine. The OP is likely to have spent a good chunk of those fifteen hours asleep, then doing whatever she needs to do on a Sunday. I know trolling is a problem on big forums, but I wish people weren't so quick to think troll just because OP isn't living on MN.
WutheringHeights66 · 27/02/2022 17:15

And she’s replied anyway now

TableSetting · 27/02/2022 17:21

@Mogs43 what does the CF usually arrange or do when it is your birthday?

venusandmars · 27/02/2022 17:23

I also texted the family members whose birthday it is - I used a combination of your replies. Explained that the restaurant could not accommodate such a large group so I was going to cancel it. Before I informed everyone I appreciated that it was her birthday and just wanted to check whether she wanted to organise something with them instead? She has just responded saying that it is up to me - she will go along with whatever I decide.

Actually the birthday person is still being a CF. You were clear - that you'd cancelled the restaurant. And you asked if SHE wanted to organise something for her birthday.

Her reply that she would go with whatever YOU decide, doesn't make sense. You have already decided. You've decided to cancel (since it's not possible to accommodate all the guests). That's it, end of story, nothing else for you to decide (or not that you have to tell her about).

It sounds like she is a) assuming you will decide to organise something for her and family and her friends; and b) if nothing is organised by you, then it will be all your fault if she has a disappointing birthday.

I'd get back to hear and say that perhaps she misunderstood. You have decided to cancel, what she wants to do for her birthday event is her decision (and for her to organise), and not yours. Hope she has a nice time.

LookItsMeAgain · 27/02/2022 17:32

As @venusandmars has just posted, this birthday person is still not getting the message that you're sending and you've been more than clear with them.

You can do one of two things here.

  1. If you have everyone's number, send one final (and then block everyone) message on WhatsApp saying that CF Birthday Person got the wrong end of the stick, the birthday 'lunch/celebration' is off and if anyone wants to arrange anything, they now have to deal directly with CF Birthday Person and their number is in the group chat. You are bowing out and the reservation is cancelled.
or
  1. You send one message to CF Birthday person saying
"Hi CFker, I'm not sure what you meant by saying that it's up to me, you'll go along with whatever I decide. I decided. I have cancelled the reservation. The lunch/whatever is not happening and you'll have to contact your friends yourself to let them know that whatever this was, is not happening. It's a pity this snowballed but it is what it is. Talk to you soon, Mogs"

Don't worry if they are offended. They clearly didn't mind causing you offence by jumping on the bandwagon of CFer's birthday celebrations, which is really tacky as you just wanted a quiet meal out with your friend and this has happened. They should be offended. At their behaviour and cheeky attitude.

RedRobin100 · 27/02/2022 17:44

@Mogs43 problem is your message to the birthday was still wishy washy. You said you were cancelling it because of restaurant capacity - instead of because you’re not ducking bankrolling her birthday party (CF)

You need to be clearer with her that she was essentially hijacking your event (as she has before) and you won’t stand for it again.

MoFro · 27/02/2022 17:48

Well done OP! Hope you have a wonderful time with your original family member and do something lovely together.

Let CF know she can organise her own birthday do and to you let you and you’ll see if you can make it otherwise wish her a great time and leave her be.

Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 18:18

Thank you for your replies. To be honest I don't think she'll ever get the message. She doesn't want to - it's how she lives her life. I don't currently have the capacity to get into a big row with her (she ended up physically fighting with another family member and I am just not like that) - but can soak up anything she puts on social media. I am clear that I am not paying for the meal - it has been cancelled and I have made arrangements to meet with the family member who has been so kind to me.

I know that ideally I would face her head on and there is a risk that by not doing so she will just carry on with more of the same. But to be honest I think she will always be like this - it has served her well in the past so why would she change?

For those who have asked, she has never done anything for me on my birthday - but that's how she is. I will just have to keep trying to engage with those family members who are kind and supportive and try to avoid/have minimal contact with the others- its not always easy but hopefully as I get a bit stronger and less desperate it will improve? Hope so! Thank you again for taking the time to help.

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2022 18:26

To be honest I don't think she'll ever get the message. She doesn't want to - it's how she lives her life. I don't currently have the capacity to get into a big row with her (she ended up physically fighting with another family member ...)

Classy ... not Hmm

Well done on your decision though, Mogs43; it sounds like you've done the right thing, and you can just leave her to leech off the kind of people who'll enable her

WTF475878237NC · 27/02/2022 18:33

Good for you OP. All the best.

forrestgreen · 27/02/2022 20:08

Well done you should feel proud of yourself. I'd maybe text others that had been invited so this isn't seen as your fault.

Next time you organise something. Just agree that this is just us

burnthur5t · 27/02/2022 20:31

You need to cancel the whole thing and start again with just your friend and kids and go elsewhere

nancynoname · 27/02/2022 20:51

She is very beautiful - has got to her 40s without ever having worked/ men paying for everything and likes to live a footballers wife type of life styles without the footballer

She sounds very ugly inside. Any man who falls for her crap is a fool.

GloriaSicTransitMundi · 27/02/2022 22:13

Flowers for you @Mogs43, it sounds like a horrible thing to try and deal with CF when you're on your own and feeling low - but please recognise what a great start you've made, you've been really strong since you first posted. It won't be the end because you say CF won't change her ways so just continue saying 'no, that doesn't work for me' and if she wilfully misunderstands future situations to try to take advantage of you, just text her and say that wasn't what was planned / discussed / arranged and I'm not doing it.

You should feel proud of yourself! This has been a tricky and trying situation. Well done Flowers

0nTheEdge · 27/02/2022 22:35

I'm so glad you didn't get railroaded into going ahead. It's hard to stick up yourself sometimes, even when you know it's what you need to do. You've been proactive about it all and sought out reassurance when you needed it. I hope things get better for you and you can surround yourself with good people who bring you joy

SD1978 · 27/02/2022 22:42

Nope, no, and nope again. You tell her the restraint can't accomodate that number, you are sticking with your original plans, and you'd be happy to catch up for a birthday drink (not) after they've all had their meal elsewhere. Do not get sucked in to get shit- it and she isn't worth it!

PriamFarrl · 27/02/2022 22:43

I know that ideally I would face her head on and there is a risk that by not doing so she will just carry on with more of the same. But to be honest I think she will always be like this - it has served her well in the past so why would she change?

No, you shouldn’t face her head on. Just walk away and try to avoid contact with her. Don’t waste time, energy and headspace on her.

LostMyLastHatfulOfWords · 27/02/2022 23:54

@Mogs43

Thank you for your replies. To be honest I don't think she'll ever get the message. She doesn't want to - it's how she lives her life. I don't currently have the capacity to get into a big row with her (she ended up physically fighting with another family member and I am just not like that) - but can soak up anything she puts on social media. I am clear that I am not paying for the meal - it has been cancelled and I have made arrangements to meet with the family member who has been so kind to me.

I know that ideally I would face her head on and there is a risk that by not doing so she will just carry on with more of the same. But to be honest I think she will always be like this - it has served her well in the past so why would she change?

For those who have asked, she has never done anything for me on my birthday - but that's how she is. I will just have to keep trying to engage with those family members who are kind and supportive and try to avoid/have minimal contact with the others- its not always easy but hopefully as I get a bit stronger and less desperate it will improve? Hope so! Thank you again for taking the time to help.

Well done on your quiet determination OP - I am full of admiration.
FrazzledMCPremenopausalWoman · 27/02/2022 23:58

Cancel the meal altogether. Explain to original friend why you're cancelling. Take her and her DC out on the other day of the weekend you're visiting.

Toocooltoboogie · 28/02/2022 00:40

I think you handled this situation really well Op and I'm glad it worked out how you wanted it to in the end. You seem so lovely and deserve good people in your life Flowers

VivX · 28/02/2022 00:42

Well done OP. Good for you x

UniversalAunt · 28/02/2022 01:16

@Mogs43 good to have your update.
Sounds like you have sorted things out fair & square, & have confirmation of the love & support of your relative & their family.
Sorry to hear how you lost your Dad, you’ve been through some hard times.

3luckystars · 28/02/2022 07:48

I know this is all sorted now but Is anyone else thinking this is the same woman from the other thread, who is beautiful and coasts through life getting freebies? The same woman who arranged an afternoon tea as a gift, didn’t pay for it, just arranged it and that was her gift. There can’t be two of them!!

LookItsMeAgain · 28/02/2022 09:02

Do you know something @3luckystars, I was thinking the very same thing!

rookiemere · 28/02/2022 09:14

To be fair to the lady from the other thread @3luckystars I can't imagine her getting into a fisticuffs situation as CF here has done.

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