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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

OP posts:
ThreeLocusts · 27/02/2022 14:00

No way are you paying for everyone's meal! CFery at it's finest. Either go back to small gathering or make sure ppl know they are paying themselves.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 27/02/2022 14:07

@singlepringlenotbychoice

I wouldn't even be tactful. I'd reply back say there's been a misunderstanding, you're not paying, it's getting out of hand and that if she wants a birthday celebration she can organise that with all the extra people and that you're sticking to your original plan. She's a massive CF
This is all you need to do. It's clear and to the point and leaves no room for misunderstandings. It's also assertive, which is what you need to starting being, OP.
GloriaSicTransitMundi · 27/02/2022 14:20

How do you handle it? Easy!

  1. Contact restaurant and cancel the booking
  2. Contact nice family member, tell them plans rearranged, you're looking forward to seeing them and their DC and will text the new meeting place when you've arranged it
  3. Contact CF family member, tell her lunch cancelled as it's got too large a group and she must make her own arrangements to celebrate her birthday but you'd love to catch up over a coffee if you have time.
  4. Put a temp block on her number.
  5. Make new lunch booking for you and original family member and their DC

Easy - just do it! No more agonising, CF certainly isn't losing any sleep over attempting to make a mug of you. But, she'll soon learn you're not a pushover.

GloriaSicTransitMundi · 27/02/2022 14:21
  1. Come back and tell us how it all worked out @Mogs43!
forrestgreen · 27/02/2022 14:29

Text first friend
'Hi, things have got massively out of hand and loads of people have been invited to our meal out. It seems easiest to just cancel and we'll sort our meal out just between us'

Text massive cf
'Hi, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. I was taking X out and was happy for you to join us. You've turned it into a huge party which wasn't what I planned. I've cancel my booking with the restaurant and I'll leave it with you to organise your birthday do with everyone else, be careful as these things can get expensive. Can't wait for my invite'

Text anyone else
'Hi, wires have been crossed. I'd arranged to meet up with x. Y thought it was a birthday do for her. I've messaged her to let her know that my arrangements wouldn't be able to host her do. She'll get in touch with you about her details. See you soon'

Load of freeloaders!!

TheBestofTimesTheWorstofTimes · 27/02/2022 14:47

11 pages in and no return from @Mogs43!

What do you think of the 257 replies/ great suggestions?

Grandville · 27/02/2022 14:54

Jeez don't be such a wet blanket. Get her told!

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/02/2022 14:58

A one-post and run OP?

Quick answer - cancel the whole thing and ring the first relative to re-arrange on a different date.

If you can't do that, then make it abundantly clear that you are ONLY paying for yourself (and secretly pay for lovely relative and family) and that EVERYONE ELSE is paying for themselves.

Why on earth you feel you should be co-opted into paying a massive bill for people who are clearly using you and leeching off you, I do not know. Stand up for yourself.

ugifletzet · 27/02/2022 15:02

@Mogs43 I sympathise with you. I hate conflict of any kind and because of this I used to have people taking serious advantage of my time and money. Things are different now. Very different. Here, courtesy of many therapy sessions and lots of practice, is Ugifletzet's Guide to Giving No Fucks.

  1. Identify what the problem actually is. Your opening question about "being tactful" suggests you think the issue here is that you don't have enough tact for the situation. Really? Was this person tactful when she started inviting half the town to your quiet little meal? Was she tactful when you voiced a concern about costs and she replied, "The restaurant will do you a deal"? The problem: someone else is trying to take advantage of you.
  1. Identify what you're really afraid of. You write this: "The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc')." So ask yourself this: "Which is harder to bear, having to fund someone else's expensive birthday party and losing out on the companionable evening I wanted, or someone flouncing about on Facebook?" You can mute her on social media. What she posts doesn't have to concern you one bit. But you can't get your money or time or self-respect back nearly as easily if you continue to let her exploit you. The fact she falls out with lots of people tells you something. It tells you she tries to be unreasonable with others too, but they aren't having it.
  1. Decide on the simplest fix. Not the best way to reduce confrontation or keep others happy, but an actual fix for the actual problem. Firmly cancelling this event - "I'm sorry, I was planning a small quiet catchup that has snowballed into something much bigger with the expectation that I would pay. This was never the case" - is the first step. Then you can contact the original people you actually wanted to see and rearrange with them. Problem solved.

Trust me, OP, people will respect you much more once you're no longer letting them walk all over you.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/02/2022 15:07

@DifficultBloodyWoman

WTF???
  1. Contact EVERYONE with a group email/text/WhatsApp.

Dear all,
First, I want to say that I’m so looking forward to seeing everyone soon and catching up with you.

However, I understand that lots of people have been told I am hosting a dinner at /restaurant name/ on /date/for /x number of people/. That is not the case!

I’m not sure quite how that happened but, unfortunately, I already have plans then and /the restaurant name,/ wouldn’t be able to accommodate so many people at that time anyway.

That said, I really do want to see everyone so please can we make other arrangements? I’m not planning a big party because I really want to spend quality time with you to catch up and I’ve found that just doesn’t happen with a million people around.

Lots of love - Mogs

  1. Then contact your original invitees and tell them it is still on.
  1. Then (optional) contact Cheeky Fucker Birthday Girl and say you’ve no idea how a meal out with her snowballed to you paying for x number of people at a restaurant so you’ve had to email everyone to put a stop to it. Good grief - can she imagine the bill?!? But you’d love to celebrate her birthday with her so she should let you know when and where her party is so you can give her a birthday card.
  1. Have a laugh with everyone about it and point out how ridiculous it is to expect you to foot the enormous bill for a catch up with so many people when you only get to spend. 3 minutes talking with each person. You’d much rather have a cup of tea (at someone’s home ) and a ‘proper chat’.

I suspect that there is more than one cheeky fucker in the group and they will be suitably ashamed of taking advantage of your hospitality in the past. If they grumble about it, they clearly prefer your credit cards to your company.

This sounds like the perfect plan!
Apple40 · 27/02/2022 15:31

Mmmm Iam wondering if the op was actually the cf friend ! Inviting everyone they wanted tell them don’t worry …… is paying

tolerable · 27/02/2022 15:34

Thats blatently horrible. and beyond rude. Why not call or blast her facebook wallbday biatch n say youre so sorry you cant make it,hope they have a lovely time etc. look fward to photos etc.. after you Cancel your booking and inform restaurant best call "lead"organiser confirm numbers.
arrange a later table//different day/other restaurant.?

CrocodilesCry · 27/02/2022 15:35

Wow this is unbelievable behaviour from your family OP Shock

Tillymintpolo · 27/02/2022 15:35

Op hasn’t been back, is this a wind up ?

BorsetshireBanality · 27/02/2022 15:37

…or a half term bit of fun

HikingforScenery · 27/02/2022 15:40

Your last paragraph made me sad reading it OPFlowers.

HikingforScenery · 27/02/2022 15:40

Ps sorry for the loss of your father

Rustylee681 · 27/02/2022 15:41

OMG! What an absolute p*taker!!!! And quite rude frankly. She sounds like a freeloader and not the kind of person I'd want to mix with anyway.
Youll need to be assertive and let her know that this wasn't the plan and you only wanted to have a small meal, find out if the restaurant has a party menu and forward it to her. If she still insist on things going ahead just cancel it and then rearrange on another day.
Even if you told her your taking deposits guaranteed in the day no one will cough up the balance so outright No, if its not affordable just be honest.

poTAYtoes · 27/02/2022 15:52

Don't let these people take advantage just because they are family!

I'd draft a message to the effect that this is NOT what you planned. You'd originally intended to have a very small meal with just XYZ, and now it has "somehow" Hmm been misunderstood that you're hosting a large gathering. Terribly sorry, but that's not possible at this time, etc., etc. Hope we can see one another another time, soon, blah blah blah.

You'll have to be prepared for a few obnoxious passive aggressive comments, but honestly, I'd rather fall out with someone (who is so clearly unpleasant) than be walked all over and used.

DrManhattan · 27/02/2022 16:00

Where are you op?

dfendyr · 27/02/2022 16:02

You not coming back OP?

Jedsnewstar · 27/02/2022 16:05

I simply wouldn’t turn up. This is mug territory ground zero. Seriously why would you consider this for a minute?

Howshouldibehave · 27/02/2022 16:06

Nearly 300 replies and not one more post from the OP?

Are you out there, @Mogs43?

CoraPirbright · 27/02/2022 16:12

I would ring the restaurant, take your name off the booking and substitute the CF’s name.

Then message the WhatsApp group:
Dear CF, my quiet lunch with Susie seems to have morphed into a huge party and several extended family members have been messaging me to ask about it. This is not at all what I had in mind and something I really do not have the head space for at the moment. Plus people seem to think I am footing the bill for everyone which is, of course, ridiculous - it would have run into the £hundreds! I have changed the booking to your name so that you can organise it going forward. I will bow out at this point but perhaps we can get together for a coffee or something during my visit”

The go for a nice lunch elsewhere with the original invitee!

stayathomer · 27/02/2022 16:13

Op some great advice above. I know this is your real life and we're strangers on the internet but 1) she is the highest of cf 2) you are not pathetic, strong willed people do things like this and make more diplomatic people feel pathetic, ie it's her not you (and she may not even realise she did this) 3) you do not need to be tactful. Best of luck

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