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Captain Tom Day

234 replies

Puppylucky · 25/02/2022 22:18

Really?! Supported by Esther Rantzen et all but now on hold - thank God

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NETSRIK · 26/02/2022 09:46

All the weird behaviour around this man and his family and the mourning when he died was one of the strangest things about the pandemic. I'm sure he was lovely and his loss was felt deeply by his loved ones but the upset and devastation that his death apparently caused to the entire nation was beyond weird. I thought it was odd at the time and I seem to have been proved right. His daughter seemed to be very savvy with her money raising.

RockStarMartini · 26/02/2022 09:47

I don’t think anyone has an issue with Capt Tom himself, just the grabby PR savvy family, in particular the daughter. It actually feels disrespectful to his memory to keep dragging this out rather than the opposite.

ThanksItHasPockets · 26/02/2022 09:50

I thought he seemed like a delightful gentleman but I was uncomfortable at the time (and I still am) by the framing of the NHS as a worthy charitable cause. It is not a charity. It is a state healthcare system and it needs to be properly funded as such.

VikingOnTheFridge · 26/02/2022 09:51

@NETSRIK

All the weird behaviour around this man and his family and the mourning when he died was one of the strangest things about the pandemic. I'm sure he was lovely and his loss was felt deeply by his loved ones but the upset and devastation that his death apparently caused to the entire nation was beyond weird. I thought it was odd at the time and I seem to have been proved right. His daughter seemed to be very savvy with her money raising.
Yeah, it was weird that the quick death of a man who'd enjoyed a long life well lived was ever portrayed as some kind of tragedy.
zingally · 26/02/2022 09:54

Yeah... Won't be doing that.

Captain Tom seemed like a nice, albeit slightly bemused old man, who was thoroughly taken advantage of by his Press-whore of a daughter.

I never donated at the time. I was on a tiny amount of furlough money and could barely pay my bills. The fuck was I contributing.

grapewine · 26/02/2022 09:56

It was all so weird from the outside looking in, and I never got the knighthood either. Plus being able to travel when no one else should. But if you said so at the time, you were deemed worse than scum.

Let the man rest. This is just opportunistic bs.

Butwhereareyou · 26/02/2022 10:00

Do we know for sure that Tom Moore had absolutely no idea about any of it?

Tbh that doesn’t strike me as likely at all.

NinaDefoe · 26/02/2022 10:00

No.
Didn’t like the PR stunt at the time, still don’t like it now.

zen1 · 26/02/2022 10:04

I can’t think of anything more cringeworthy.

BuyDirt · 26/02/2022 10:04

Cringe at the time. Scummy family.

Theluggage15 · 26/02/2022 10:05

He seemed like a nice old chap who’d lived a good life well. I have no issues with him but his daughter is just something else. She described 2020 as her best financial year and as for all that jumping up and waving at Wimbledon as if she’d done something heroic, when Sarah Gilbert who invented the vaccine just smiled and waved, she really loves milking it all.

Staryflight445 · 26/02/2022 10:05

How much of the money raised actually went to the nhs then?

Legalconundrums · 26/02/2022 10:05

It was a well orchestrated marketing machine at work, Hannah knew exactly what she was doing.

SecretSpAD · 26/02/2022 10:05

@ThanksItHasPockets

I thought he seemed like a delightful gentleman but I was uncomfortable at the time (and I still am) by the framing of the NHS as a worthy charitable cause. It is not a charity. It is a state healthcare system and it needs to be properly funded as such.
Exactly this about the NHS (although I think the money went to the NHS charities). During the first lockdown saw many many charities having to curtail their fundraising, even big ones like cancer research uk and Macmillan. They lost millions, the people they helped missed out on support, staff lost their jobs. Meanwhile, the NHS was awash with cash. It just left a bad taste in my mouth when talking to friends who were distraught that the charities they worked for were left in a terrible position.
Theluggage15 · 26/02/2022 10:06

Sarah Gilbert smiled and waved while remaining seated I meant!

bellac11 · 26/02/2022 10:07

@Butwhereareyou

Do we know for sure that Tom Moore had absolutely no idea about any of it?

Tbh that doesn’t strike me as likely at all.

Its interesting how elderly people are viewed, as if they are all lovely and benign and honest. I dont say he wasnt, Im just interested in how the elderly are viewed as if they are all vulnerable to the decisions of others and dont have an input into that

An example is during the pandemic when it was portrayed as if any elderly at christmas dinners or family gatherings were dragged there kicking and screaming to be put 'at risk' by others. Never mind that they had agency over their own decisions and that they could equally pose risk to the other people there too.

Butwhereareyou · 26/02/2022 10:09

Well this is it … I don’t really see that he thought ‘my word, my daughter, who works in PR, has just happened to suggest I walk round the garden …’ I mean, we know our relatives!

viques · 26/02/2022 10:09

@Userg1234

Im v very suspicious of all 'tribute' charities. There's one local to me where the family are very 'it's for charity ' when try to get things for free or increase their share of any income.

But when you go on the charity commission site and look at the accounts, they spend a lot on fund raising and after 2 years of accounts, don't seem to have paid out anything in way of charity.

Very true, and often there is an established charity doing much the same thing but more efficiently. I understand that people want to leave a legacy when they have lost a family member but they need much better initial guidance from the charities commission before they set up these small expensive niche charities.
SartresSoul · 26/02/2022 10:10

Same goes for Azaylia Cain's father and the "foundation". Seems they've been spending the GoFundMe money on themselves.

I was going to say this too. They set the go fund me up to raise money for her funeral even though they definitely have enough of their own money to pay for that. The rest was supposed to go in their own charity except it’s been almost a year now and there’s still no charity to speak of.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 26/02/2022 10:13

Called out that his grifter of a daughter was in it for the long con at the time and was shouted down for it. Just because Sir Tom was old, doesn’t mean he was 100% unaware financial gains could be made either. At the end of the day he was apparently raising money for the NHS but was more than happy for him and his whole family to fly to Barbados and risk catching Covid and further burdening the NHS.

He was a nationalists dream - Old, British, veteran, NHS…as someone said all it needed was a flag and a bulldog. The whole story of how the charity walk idea took off was suspect. This took some Oceans 11 style planning. Grifting runs through this family like a stick of rock.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/02/2022 10:14

I think he and his family set out to capitalise on him raising money for the NHS

I thought so even when it was happening, though as with so many other things hatred descended on anyone who dared to say so

No disrespect to Captain Tom himself, but unfortunately there are always those who'll see their chance for a quick buck

CeleriacOfTheNight · 26/02/2022 10:14

He didn't 'capture my heart' I didn't particularly like him very much at the time after seeing an interview where he didn't come across very well.

The whole thing became a circus, and I hope it all gets forgotten about.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 26/02/2022 10:15

what is this all about?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/02/2022 10:16

Same goes for Azaylia Cain's father and the "foundation"

Plus Baby Dax and so many others ...

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/02/2022 10:16

The money raised by Captain Tom went to NHS charities together nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/

His family really need to learn to shut up now