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Identity politics in secondary school

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OrchidCarer · 24/02/2022 21:25

Please be gentle because I’m trying to work out how I feel about this issue.

I have 3 boys at secondary school. A new Head started in September. Since then I’ve noticed the school has increased the amount of teaching time given over to identity politics.

For example:

  • Students have special science lessons on LGBTQ+ Scientists. Surely they shouldn’t be recognised for their sexuality but for their achievements? Why is their sexuality even relevant to their job?
  • Every subject studies load of ‘Black History’ type subjects – so far my Y9 kid has studied slavery, the slave trade, the Windrush generation this year. This is in history, geography, English. These are presented in a way that makes all black people victims and all white people oppressors. The kids pick up on this and their friendship groups form around race (school is about 30% black, 65% white, 5% other ethnicities).
  • Assemblies all the time about how women are downtrodden, oppressed, victims and men are the aggressors, perpetrators. Female dominated classes with a female teacher discussing the patriarchy and similar themes.

I am uncomfortable about all of this division. We are all just human. There is a big difference between educating about past prejudice and forcing stereotypes on kids now.

Concerns

  • White straight boys are never in the oppressed group, so are constantly told they are the bad guys. My sons have given up trying to prove everyone wrong – the narrative against them is too strong. My eldest rails at home about the unfairness of it all, how he’s depressed, he can’t do right because he’s a straight white guy, he just wants to go and fight in Ukraine where he’ll be allowed to be a man, doesn’t care if he dies. It’s exhausting to deal with.
  • Push towards the far right. If you watch slightly right-wing content, algorithms recommend more. There is a danger that disenchanted boys will turn for comfort to online creators who exploit their anger and encourage sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes.
  • Where is the evidence that these interventions make the ‘oppressed’ groups feel supported?
  • Women, queer people, and people of colour need allies. We are all on the same side, in the end, and this divisive approach is having the opposite effect to the one intended.

There is a real taboo about saying these things. I raised the LGBTQ+ scientists question and got a dramatically long and patronising lecture in an email back again as though I was the bad guy.

Maybe I am being unreasonable?

Is there anything that I can do or do I just have to watch it all unfold?

OP posts:
cuno · 05/03/2022 18:53

@Sharnydubs

Teaching issues aside; I'm shocked at the amount of antipathy towards white boys / men here, considering most people have husbands, sons, fathers. I and my family treat everyone equally, whatever their race, gender, etc. We do not and have never been unkind to anyone on those grounds. Therefore I refuse to allow my son or any one of us to accept "guilt " for anything in the past or present. Understanding yes, but never guilt for so called "white privilege" etc , and I will never be persuaded otherwise .
I don't have sons, my partner isn't white, and my dad is a pretty awful man, and I generally have a lot of negative experiences with men including the ones who raped me, so I don't understand what your point is? After all, every rapist is someone's son!

That being said, no-one is advocating for white boys and men to be treated as lesser because of their sex and race. But if teaching about historical events and, god forbid, letting your children know that some people are gay, gets your back up this much to bleat "well what about our white boys", then you are being incredibly precious. Extending kindness and equality to people who aren't white males is not an affront to white males, believe it or not.

woodhill · 05/03/2022 20:05

@Sharnydubs

Teaching issues aside; I'm shocked at the amount of antipathy towards white boys / men here, considering most people have husbands, sons, fathers. I and my family treat everyone equally, whatever their race, gender, etc. We do not and have never been unkind to anyone on those grounds. Therefore I refuse to allow my son or any one of us to accept "guilt " for anything in the past or present. Understanding yes, but never guilt for so called "white privilege" etc , and I will never be persuaded otherwise .
Ditto

We weren't alive and probably if we had been we would have been impoverished and barely getting by ourselves

Villagewaspbyke · 05/03/2022 22:08

We definitely need to talk about these things but I think it’s dependent on context and content. E.g. science should really be about science not scientists, LGBT or not. I agree though that everyone needs positive role models, including white boys.

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