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It's not WW3

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TheRealityCheque · 24/02/2022 13:12

To wish people would stop conflating the Ukrainian invasion with WW3.

It's shite and completely unacceptable and my thoughts are with thee innocent people affected but it is not a world war and isn't going to become one.

IABU - WW3 is here
IANBU - it's a localised war.

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TheRealityCheque · 24/02/2022 13:40

@FrenchBoule

Hitler invaded only Poland to start with.

Ukraine first,then who? Latvia? Lithuania? Poland?

No chance of him invading those - they are NATO members.

Only Belarus and Moldova aren't, and they are both allies with Moscow so unlikely to be invaded

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notsurehowtostop · 24/02/2022 13:42

Putin has literally threatened nuclear war really though hasn't he? Any country who interferes will provoke a never seen before response?

If there was a man I would fear having the "If I'm going down I'm taking the rest of you with me" mentality it would be Putin. How do we know he isn't going to take that route?

The world as we know it could cease to exist if that was to happen, you can't blame people for being scared. It doesn't take away from the sympathies we have for those immediately effected, but if the nukes come out we are all fucked.

Xenia · 24/02/2022 13:42

Belarus has sided with Russia already. Estonia is another possible one. One foot by Russia on to EU soil and we will be fighting them with full force.

Beees · 24/02/2022 13:42

No chance of him invading those - they are NATO members.

You cannot possibly know he won't invade somewhere that is a NATO member. If he's going to do keep going no matter what, you blithely stating it wont happen won't change his actions.

Sirzy · 24/02/2022 13:43

We all hope he doesn’t invade a NATO country but that doesn’t mean he won’t.

Nobody can guarantee anything like that.

girlmom21 · 24/02/2022 13:43

Putin has said any country that tries to prevent or stop Russia will feel recourse like they've never felt before.

The guy is a psychopath.
They should just assassinate him.

Lemonyfuckit · 24/02/2022 13:44

@LemonViolet

There is a lot of middle ground between “localised war” (which this isn’t; this is a major world power saying fuck you and your democracy and your diplomacy, to the rest of the world) and “WW3” (which this isn’t; yet ; but the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand wasn’t WW1 on the day it happened, either, and we don’t have a crystal ball).

So I say YABU at this stage for being so dismissive of people sharing their fears in a public forum, on a day when such major news is breaking.

Precisely, and nor was Germany's invasion of Poland WW2 at that particular initial point...
Nanny0gg · 24/02/2022 13:45

@TheRealityCheque

To wish people would stop conflating the Ukrainian invasion with WW3.

It's shite and completely unacceptable and my thoughts are with thee innocent people affected but it is not a world war and isn't going to become one.

IABU - WW3 is here
IANBU - it's a localised war.

Where's the third option?

It's a localised war now

I highly doubt Putin will stop at Ukraine.

marieantoinehairnet · 24/02/2022 13:46

WW1 and 2 didn't look like a world war to begin with.

You're talking about a tyrannical dictator who has lost the plot.

The man is coming to the end of his career and he's quite like to go down in history for something memorable.

He'll go to the death I reckon, sadly.

BearOfEasttown · 24/02/2022 13:46

@TheRealityCheque

No chance of him invading those - they are NATO members.

Where did you get your crystal ball from? You seem to know an AWFUL lot about what is going to happen in the future. How amazing you are. Hmm

Also, what is your AIBU? Why did you post this on here, and not on the NEWS forum?

courgettigreensadwater · 24/02/2022 13:47

He's basically said if anyone try's to stop him doing what he wants he will nuke them. This sounds like there is a lot of potential for WWIII to me.

marieantoinehairnet · 24/02/2022 13:48

He make go the nuke route, but they love a bit golf cyber warring too

marieantoinehairnet · 24/02/2022 13:50

Now in English, the man could push a button on a nuke, but they love a cyber war too and will screw us one way or another

CaptainThe95thRifles · 24/02/2022 13:50

Over a century on, the "it'll all be over by Christmas" mentality still has a firm grip... Nobody ever thinks they're on the brink of a major conflict until it happens. There's every chance it won't happen and things will be OK (ish - not remotely OK in Ukraine) - but it could and it's reasonable for people to express concern about that.

AntsInPenzance · 24/02/2022 13:52

@FrenchBoule

Hitler invaded only Poland to start with.

Ukraine first,then who? Latvia? Lithuania? Poland?

Not sure why Putin would want to invade those countries. The invasion in Ukraine is about supporting pro-Russian breakaway groups. I just can't see Putin invading a random country for no reason when the Russian economy and military will have already been seriously damaged with Ukraine.
marieantoinehairnet · 24/02/2022 13:53

Don't be silly Penzance, his reasons for invading Ukraine are just an excuse. He wants the old Russian landscape back, and that's all of it.

Allsorts1 · 24/02/2022 13:54

My worry with Putin is he’s in his 70s now. I genuinely think he’d quite like to be the main historical celebrity of a WW3, and he won’t be around very long to live with the consequences either. He wants to go down in history.

Ciaram55 · 24/02/2022 13:55

There was always the potential for Russia to encroach on a NATO country. Germany being a prime example before it became unified. If he was daft enough to invade a NATO country then it's game over for all of us, including him. Unless that is he's got plans to live in an underground bunker for the rest of his life. I just don't think he'd want that.

NobodysGonnaKnow · 24/02/2022 13:56

He’s also testing the response from the West. Plus he has China as an ally. I suspect he knows we can do precisely nothing.

AlistairCamel · 24/02/2022 13:56

Today 13:18 daimbarsatemydogsbone

AlistairCamel
It’s a bit like when people said that Covid wasn’t going to lead to a global pandemic…you just don’t know.

We have a bit more to go on with this though.

Not in the way the op is suggesting.

alfagirl73 · 24/02/2022 13:57

It's not WW3 right now and one absolutely hopes it doesn't go that far. I do think it's naive to assume it can't/won't go there. Of course, the rational and sensible course for Putin would be to not invade a NATO country - but we're not talking about a rational person here so who knows what he's thinking. He essentially threatened the West with nukes a few hours ago - I wouldn't exactly call that the behaviour of a well-adjusted person.

There are plenty military experts who have expressed concern about how this situation could escalate. It doesn't mean it will - one hopes it won't - but it's a case of hoping for the best but recognising the seriousness of the situation and preparing for the worst.

The fact is we just don't know what lies ahead. A few days ago people were on here posting that Putin would never invade Ukraine and it would all blow over in a week...

I understand about not catastrophising but this is by no means a minor situation that will blow over in a few days or weeks... and there are absolutely no guarantees Putin will stop at Ukraine - especially if he gets what he wants and feels emboldened and invincible.

CremeEggThief · 24/02/2022 13:57

Well it's not at this stage, but it could easily escalate to WW111.

I'm not sure anyone was calling 1.9.1939 WW11...

Wannabangbang · 24/02/2022 13:59

If we keep out of it. If we get involved then I'm afraid thats it.

Lou98 · 24/02/2022 14:01

it is not a world war and isn't going to become one.

There is no way Putin will invade a NATO member

No chance of him invading those - they are NATO members

You have absolutely no idea that that's true though - this is simply you thinking he won't but you can't know it as fact.

He's already threatened 'instant' retaliation on anyone that tries to get involved in a way they've 'never seen before'
I'll take his word over yours.

There's no use in panicking but also need to be realistic that it will potentially become more than a localised war, as others have said, WW1 and 2 never started off as world wars either

Whichjab · 24/02/2022 14:02

Covid: No way we will close schools and workplaces, nearly a year later no way will we close schools amd workplaces. No one knows, with anything

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