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Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

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Lennyllama · 23/02/2022 11:22

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

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ABitBesotted · 23/02/2022 12:07

One great thing about living in a Muslim-majority area is no WAY would the DC's school pull a stunt like this

They have a hard enough time teaching ghost stories

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Lennyllama · 23/02/2022 12:08

@Stressedout1009 Really!? Is it a public group? Looks like this is going to get out then.

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VestaTilley · 23/02/2022 12:12

This is absolutely appalling. Drag is deeply misogynistic, sexualised and a nasty caricature of women.

I’d want an apology from the Head, I’d want it raised at a meeting of the governors and I’d report to Ofsted/DfE.

Where is this school? Give your child a talking to about drag not being seen as ok by all people. It certainly isn’t with me.

Stressedout1009 · 23/02/2022 12:13

[quote Lockheart]@Stressedout1009 oh well if it's been posted in two places on the internet then it must be true!

Seriously though, TRAs are known to wind up MN for screenshots. Don't give them fodder.[/quote]
Not sure why you are being so snarky. I'm just saying that I saw this exact same topic in another group where there were quite a few people who confirmed this happened at the school - along with their profiles clear to see. So this actually did in fact happen.

Stressedout1009 · 23/02/2022 12:15

[quote Lennyllama]@Stressedout1009 Really!? Is it a public group? Looks like this is going to get out then.[/quote]
No its a private group. But the op there posted pictures of the drag queen at the school.

Arewethereyet21 · 23/02/2022 12:15

This happened in Scotland two years ago. Never mind complaining to the MP, it was arranged by the MP (SNP) who accompanied the drag queen, named ‘Flowjob’ for story time. There was an outcry after sexually explicit material was found on the drag queen’s social media but the MP slated critics and called them homophobic. This is living in Scotland right now.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/02/2022 12:17

@SexyLittleNosferatu

Utter bullshit.

There's a really interesting video by a drag queen who points out how completely inappropriate it is. I can't remember his name but it is a very good video, by someone who is in the 'industry' himself!

That may be Kitty Demure
ClariceQuiff · 23/02/2022 12:18

Need more info about the content of the stories and show to judge this.

OnlyAFleshWound · 23/02/2022 12:18

@Arewethereyet21

This happened in Scotland two years ago. Never mind complaining to the MP, it was arranged by the MP (SNP) who accompanied the drag queen, named ‘Flowjob’ for story time. There was an outcry after sexually explicit material was found on the drag queen’s social media but the MP slated critics and called them homophobic. This is living in Scotland right now.
Flowjob? In a primary school? What the fuck is going on. This is terrifying.
ChardonnaysPetDragon · 23/02/2022 12:19

@VestaTilley

This is absolutely appalling. Drag is deeply misogynistic, sexualised and a nasty caricature of women.

I’d want an apology from the Head, I’d want it raised at a meeting of the governors and I’d report to Ofsted/DfE.

Where is this school? Give your child a talking to about drag not being seen as ok by all people. It certainly isn’t with me.

Good luck with that. You will only get called a phobic of all sorts.
GrendelsGrandma · 23/02/2022 12:22

Meh, I took DC to a drag queen story in a library when she was a tot. It was a guy in flamboyant make up and a funny dress, I think the kids weren't that bothered either way. It's just a spectacle like having a Chinese New Year Dragon or something.

I couldn't get that worked up about it, but I wouldn't want it to have sleazy content.

KeffiGlass · 23/02/2022 12:25

It's fucking inappropriate, grotesque and the opposite of child-centred.

I'm not frothing, I'm using critical reflection and sharing informed feedback. HTH.

LaBellina · 23/02/2022 12:26

The fact that the school didn’t notify the parents in advance tells me they knew this wasn’t going to be readily accepted by many.

I would complain about this. It’s not up to the school to decide if adult entertainment should be done at primary school. I’d have been livid about this, and the sneakiness of the school on top of that.

MrsWinters · 23/02/2022 12:27

I hate the BBC normalising drag, and completely pretending there isn’t a debate to be had and that a large portion of the population find it offensive. This is now rolling over into schools and workplaces- and women just keep their head down for fear of being labelled as bigoted as men stereotype and demean them. It’s appalling.

Threeboysandadog · 23/02/2022 12:29

There was a huge outcry when this exact scenario happened in a Scottish primary school a couple of years ago.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/02/2022 12:29

@Eightiesfan

When you say thighs high boots, skimpy clothes and risqué content is this what you’ve seen online or what you know DQ was wearing when visiting school?

Would I very surprised if this was allowed. I am all for inclusivity and diversity, so I would have no issue with DQ visiting, but I do find it hard to believe the school would allow an x-rated performance!

These are pictures posted on the business page by the one who runs Drag Queen Story Hour UK, at his bookings with festivals and libraries. So long as the performer were actually wearing underwear with it, I think a short skirt would be better; it would make the outline of the penis less distinguishable! I don't think it's appropriate for children attending school or a children's reading session to be able to see the shape of a penis on a children's entertainer.

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Jkdinomum · 23/02/2022 12:30

A better message to teach children about diversity and "being" yourself would be a woman who has short hair and wears baggy trousers and a hoody, perhaps working in a traditionally male industry, talking about how you can dress and do whatever you like, no matter what your sex, and that doing so doesn't mean you are, or are pretending to be the opposite sex. Or a man working in a traditionally female industry. None of it should be anything to do with sex. You wouldn't expect any other visitor to a school to wear sexually provocative clothing.

Threeboysandadog · 23/02/2022 12:31

Ooops, so slow I cross posted!

Icouldabeenalawyer · 23/02/2022 12:32

Having a queen visit the school wouldn't bother me at all! Although I'd expect an incredibly toned down and child appropriate act and appropriate clothing. My kids love pride each year and especially chatting to the queen's. Do we let them watch drag race...nope!

BigSandyBalls2015 · 23/02/2022 12:32

Ridiculous. I’m so glad my DCs are grown up but god help any grand kids.

Gonnagetgoing · 23/02/2022 12:32

@SexyLittleNosferatu

Utter bullshit.

There's a really interesting video by a drag queen who points out how completely inappropriate it is. I can't remember his name but it is a very good video, by someone who is in the 'industry' himself!

@SexyLittleNosferatu - where is this video? I can't find it.
Goatsaregreat · 23/02/2022 12:32

Inclusion is having a firefighter, someone with a disability, a gay or lesbian parent, the local Imam or vicar, a senior citizen or maybe someone in the school who the children wouldn't see in the role as story teller - a cook, dinner supervisor or cleaner. That's inclusion in a school where children learn about the range of people they'll come into contact with.
A drag queen represents drag - an adult entertainer usually with an offensive hyper sexualised representation of women. They have no business being in schools, especially primary schools.

MGMidget · 23/02/2022 12:33

Anything steamy or revealing clothing is wrong in my view, just as I would be against it from someone who wasn’t in drag. A visit from someone transgender and a sensible discussion about this would be fine with me.

DrSbaitso · 23/02/2022 12:33

We had a day dedicated to introducing Shakespeare. The guy leading it dressed up as Ariel and stayed in character all day. Seemed an ideal way for him to wear sparkly, flamboyant stuff and refer constantly to his master, as he clearly loved to do, while keeping it appropriate and educational.

theDudesmummy · 23/02/2022 12:33

Totally and utterly inappropriate and offensive.