Unvaccinated

[CatLover71]

I am not vaccinated but my husband is. He has been offered a promotion in another country which would mean moving out of the country. He is vaccinated. AIBU to feel apprehensive about getting the vaccination? I want to support his dreams but I am worried about getting the vaccination due to the horror stories I have heard. AIBU?

Sorry I should have said would genuinely rather that than have all the covid symptoms again - I know the vaccine doesn't make me immune.

Millions upon millions of people have had one or other of the vaccines. The number of people who have suffered genuine complications is vanishingly small as a percentage. By all means do more research of your own if you feel you don't have enough information but please make sure that it is from an appropriately qualified source.

You sound vaccine-hesitant, rather than anti-vax. The anti-vaxers, some of whom don't believe viruses exist at all (yes, really, all of them) love to post made up stories to scare people like you who are simply uncertain. If you mean those stories about the yellow card scheme and loads of 'adverse events' after getting jabbed? Purely self reported and a lot of them are maliciously logged. One IP address alone racked up over 6,000 yellow card reports. That means they are deliberately logging this crap using bots or whatever, because they don't want others to get jabbed - and those reports are just that, they have not been shown to prove any kind of link to vaccine damage, which is vanishingly rare. I could log on there now and claim both my feet fell off due to a vaccine, doesn't mean shit. Total opposite of 'free choice', cos they want to scare you and others away from it. As a pp said, there have been precisely 9 people die in the UK where it was definitely related to being jabbed. Bit different to the 150,000 covid deaths, don't you think? And that's without the amount of long covid that people are having to deal with, possibly disabled for life. Bear in mind that some people will have died after vaccination, who would have died anyway, correlation does not mean causation. Please, please get vaccinated, for yourself and your community. I'm triple jabbed and had no more than grogginess for a day each time, one time nothing at all. Also, vaccines canNOT cause long term effects, they break down and are gone from the body after a few days, their job having been done in giving our immune systems the heads up. Anyone claiming there may be longer term effects is bullshitting and should be ignored, it just doesn't work like that. The move abroad, that's a different matter and I wish you well in your decisions.

For me I am worried about possible long term effects that aren't known, I've had 2 doses myself but mightily pissed off that what I was told was lies ie I won't get covid and that I will keep others safe by having it

@WishIwasElsa

For me I am worried about possible long term effects that aren't known, I've had 2 doses myself but mightily pissed off that what I was told was lies ie I won't get covid and that I will keep others safe by having it

I feel just like you do. I understand the benefits of having the vaccine, not passing it to others. But to be told that we would be immune to covid and then to find out that is not the case, is upsetting to say the least.

Just like everything else really we are just lied to constantly by those in charge

I have opinions that would have me called Anti-Vaxxer etc on here, but in your situation, if such an important life decision rested on getting it, and I wanted to go, I would get it. I don’t like the fact that you have to do but that’s life now.

Where has it ever been said that having the vaccine makes you immune from covid??
Can you please share where you have found this information.

Like any vaccines, it reduces your risk of catching the virus, not eliminates the risk altogether.

@WishIwasElsa

Just like everything else really we are just lied to constantly by those in charge

Ditto

The horror stories I’ve heard are unvaccinated youngsters in their 20s who have ended up in intensive care with Covid or secondary pneumonia (hospitalised with it).

They are people I know who have been really poorly with Covid, not random stories on the internet of people’s dicks falling off after being vaccinated.

@Cardio101

Where has it ever been said that having the vaccine makes you immune from covid?? Can you please share where you have found this information.

Like any vaccines, it reduces your risk of catching the virus, not eliminates the risk altogether.

This. It has never been said. Because no vaccine is 100% effective. Absolute first world privileged nonsense.

Which country? Is it one that definitely requires vaccination or could you get in with just a test? Things are changing quickly and a few places have recently dropped the vaccinated-only requirement.

Obviously if it's New Zealand or something then it's vaccinate or not go

Long Covid is a never ending horror story...

Do what you feel comfortable with, I am very happily unvaccinated as is my husband. Where would you be moving too?

I have read loads of vaccinations causing severe health issues with people and more and more stories are being released daily. But there are also a huge amount of people who were vaccinated who have been fine. Personally I know a friend who now has health issues due to his vaccination but people choose not to believe him and not accept it has happened.

What “research” are you going to do?

Depends where the job is. Is it possible to be there and not be vaccinated?
Most people are totally ok after it - my Ds, my DH
Others not to. I had three weeks of headaches after the second one and a week of exhaustion
My friend has an exception from further vaccination as it basically destroyed her immune system and gave her water/fluid around all her organs and fluid in her lungs. It’s taken nearly a year and she isn’t back to full health.
She got Covid and it was mild as anything.

YANBU. If you are young and fit and healthy I completely understand your reservation. It is not without side effects - some serious. And obviously the long term side effects are completely unknown.

I’ve had one dose. I sat on the fence for so long about it and felt so coerced into it. I regret it.

Do what you feel comfortable with. X

I will admit that I have not done any extensive research.

I never would have guessed. 🙄

@Guineapigssweak

I have read loads of vaccinations causing severe health issues with people and more and more stories are being released daily. But there are also a huge amount of people who were vaccinated who have been fine. Personally I know a friend who now has health issues due to his vaccination but people choose not to believe him and not accept it has happened.

There was a fascinating paper in Nature last month. A huge trial was run in the US. Thousands of people were given saline instead of the vaccine. And hundreds of those had adverse effects, including headaches, swelling, pain, rashes and chest pains. All caused by the Nocebo effect, where they expected something bad to happen, so it did. It's the opposite of the placebo effect,. But much less studied. The human mind and its effect on the body is incredible.

But to be told that we would be immune to covid and then to find out that is not the case, is upsetting to say the least.

Literally no one of any relevance has ever said this, unless you mean your mates down at the pub or the Bozos on the conspiracy websites you visit.

I've had 2 doses myself but mightily pissed off that what I was told was lies ie I won't get covid and that I will keep others safe by having it

You weren’t lied to you just assumed that a vaccination is 100% effective when it isn’t.

That’s like getting pregnant and saying that you thought the pill/condoms were 100% effective when of course they’re not.

If you don’t want it then don’t get it.
But don’t expect your DH to not take up this job opportunity.

@Aquamarine1029

But to be told that we would be immune to covid and then to find out that is not the case, is upsetting to say the least.

Literally no one of any relevance has ever said this, unless you mean your mates down at the pub or the Bozos on the conspiracy websites you visit.

This is a prime example of what I am talking about on another thread. Why the need for the rude, sarcastic commentary about my mates down at the pub? Who told you that I visit conspiracy websites? We are all entitled to our opinions, but when someone starts to assume things and makes snide comments to that effect, it’s unnecessary and rude.