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Do most Teenagers do drugs?

403 replies

Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:00

DD is 17. She was at a party last night and I got a call from her as it got shut down by the police. One of the girls at the party was taken to hospital in an ambulance after an overdose. Today I had a chat with the mum of the boy who’s party it was and she was, to be expected, incredibly frustrated as she had to fly back to deal with the fallout. Thankfully the police were only really fussed about the noise after the neighbours complained and nothing is being taken further.

However, this prompted me to speak to my DD about why drugs should be avoided and about being sensible etc. DD got very defensive and told me that everyone does drugs, ‘MDMA is safer than alcohol’ and lots more to that extent.

I was incredibly shocked- I know DD smokes (both cigarettes and weed) and whilst I would prefer her to stop, she’s 17 and like most of my peers, I did the same at her age. However, I knew absolutely nothing of the hard drugs and how common they are with her friends.

DH is also worried but sees it as an almost given. He went to a similar school in London to hers and was in a similar ‘scene’ when he was younger and confirms that it is very much the norm.

Mum of the party boy agreed that coke, ketamine, MDMA are all very normalised with their peers and thinks the best course of action is to educate them on dosages, rather than pleading with them to stop.

I feel so naive; I feel as if I have failed my daughter by bringing her up in this privileged inner city London environment where most of the DC have the money for these expensive drugs. But DH thinks it’s not our fault and that this happens everywhere. It certainly didn’t happen on this scale when I was growing up in a less privileged, more suburban area.

Is this normal for teenagers everywhere/ was I just incredibly sheltered growing up?

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Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:36

@JaniieJones
If we stopped allowing them to have house parties, they would simply go clubbing or go to raves more often. Both of which are more unsafe than a warm, safe house, especially the rave scene.

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JudyGemstone · 17/02/2022 13:39

“I can't quite believe someone is suggesting reading anything Prof Nutter has to say, the bloke actually sacked for his crazy theories.”

He was sacked because tony Blair didn’t like what he had to say, because he was bang on. Not politically advantageous does not equal crazy.

Mo1911 · 17/02/2022 13:40

No definitely not usual I'm afraid.

Akire · 17/02/2022 13:41

Even 20y ago it was considered completely stupid thing to do in my peer group. These days no excuse really you just don’t know what you are talking.

TravellingFrom · 17/02/2022 13:42

2 dcs of a similar age than your dd.
They don’t do drug either.

But I think it depends a lot of who they are friends with. Dc1 has talked about drugs being passed on between people at school. It’s just that within his close friendship group it doesn’t happen.

cecilthehungryspider · 17/02/2022 13:42

@Mandofan

I would also take it with a pinch of salt when people say their kids never did drugs. They have no way of knowing for sure. It can be easy to hide if you’re doing it on a night out and return home the next day. It’s unlikely they’ll tell their parents about it
You are assuming that all teens go on "nights out" though. My DD and her friends used to go around each other's houses, eat pizza, watch movies and play D&D! I know that's what they did because I saw it for myself when they all landed here. Not all teens are wild party animals.
MrsTimRiggins · 17/02/2022 13:43

Well I wouldn’t say it’s every teenager, no, but certainly some, as if ever was.
For my experience tho, I’m now 28, with siblings between 22 and 32 and none of us took drugs, albeit one or two of my siblings smoked a bit of weed here and there as youths! In my friendship group as teenagers only one girl did drugs, and she did do anything and everything, but even in the wider group, weed really was the only drug anyone tried and that was late teens I’d say.

AlexaShutUp · 17/02/2022 13:44

My impression from talking to dd is that weed is fairly widespread. She hates the smell so isn't tempted. Some of her friends smoke it but most don't. No other drugs in her friendship group.

LadyPropane · 17/02/2022 13:44

My experience was that quite a lot of teenagers do drugs, but not all of them. There were groups that did it and groups that didn't.

Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:46

@cecilthehungryspider
My DD has friends over for dinner and drinks/films etc. It doesn’t mean that when they’re not here that they’re always doing the same.

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OvertheRainbow2U · 17/02/2022 13:47

ComtesseDeSpair

Exactly that - possibly easier :( and we live in a small town - rural

HaggisBurger · 17/02/2022 13:47

@Oslosunshine - also do bear in mind that if your DD is talking to you about what is going on then IMHO you've not failed as a parent.

If you lived in cloud cuckoo land (see above - teenagers can neither afford drugs nor know how to go about getting them Shock) it would be much worse than having some awareness. Its not limited to private schools though I do agree that there will be some kids with a lot funds and minimal supervision which is a bad combo.

Keep talking to your DD and keep the lines of communication open. It was an eyeopener that from about 12 months I actually couldn't MAKE my kids do anything - I could guide, encourage, discourage etc etc. But our kids have autonomy and when they are teenagers that includes some really scary stuff I think.

mibbelucieachwell · 17/02/2022 13:47

My DCs are in their twenties now. They went to a specialist, highly performing state school in Scotland. I'm fairly sure they didn't do drugs as teenagers.

DS commented on how prevalent drug taking was at the conservatoire he did his degree at in London.

In Scotland it's very common for a lot of alcohol to be consumed at house parties from the age of 15. Which I find appalling.

Fewer young people smoke than when we were young though.

Anonymous48 · 17/02/2022 13:48

No, of course "most" teenagers don't do drugs!

Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:48

@JudyGemstone
Could you explain a bit more, sorry I know it’s a little bit off topic but I’m really interested. So Blair shut him down as he didn’t want to open up the can of worms re mdma?

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UserWithNoUserName · 17/02/2022 13:48

I grew up in a sink town.
Drugs were very much looked down on and the vast majority of people didn't do them.
As an adult, I don't know anybody who has- to at least admits- to ever having even tried them!

SueSaid · 17/02/2022 13:50

'My experience was that quite a lot of teenagers do drugs, but not all of them.'

My experience is some of course do, but a lot don't. Parents have got to stop thinking it's all par for the course.

BobMortimersPetOwl · 17/02/2022 13:50

All teenagers - no. Lots of teenagers - yes.

Agree with the mother of the other boy too, its better to educate on how to do something as safely as possible than to blindly push abstinence.

Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:50

@HaggisBurger
You’re right. I’m so pleased that DD is speaking to me about this now as communication is the only way I can guide her. It’s hard to hear but it’s better to know, I suppose.

Although I do slightly envy those posters who are blissfully unaware!

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 17/02/2022 13:51

My child attended two different secondary schools and the first drugs were taken at party's, mainly dope but some ketamin, yr 13.
Second school was christian and that seemed as though less children had experimented with drugs, but 6th form this changed and a lot of them smoked dope, we are in Kent.
They went to a 'good' Uni in South West where the very first week they were given business cards by students dealing and offering to deliver to their door, dealers buy from the dark web and deliver.
I think they are easily available everywhere.

Oslosunshine · 17/02/2022 13:51

@JaniieJones

I take your point but surely it’s better to know what they’re taking than to lie to ourselves that they aren’t taking anything because we wish they weren’t.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 17/02/2022 13:53

[quote Oslosunshine]@JudyGemstone
Could you explain a bit more, sorry I know it’s a little bit off topic but I’m really interested. So Blair shut him down as he didn’t want to open up the can of worms re mdma?[/quote]
He crossed the line Blair’s government didn’t want him to cross between offering a purely scientific view, and a politicised one:

Explaining his dismissal of Nutt, Alan Johnson wrote in a letter to The Guardian, that "He was asked to go because he cannot be both a government adviser and a campaigner against government policy. [...] As for his comments about horse riding being more dangerous than ecstasy, which you quote with such reverence, it is of course a political rather than a scientific point."
Responding in The Times, Professor Nutt said: "I gave a lecture on the assessment of drug harms and how these relate to the legislation controlling drugs. According to Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, some contents of this lecture meant I had crossed the line from science to policy and so he sacked me. I do not know which comments were beyond the line or, indeed, where the line was [...]".He maintains that "the ACMD was supposed to give advice on policy".

JudyGemstone · 17/02/2022 13:56

[quote Oslosunshine]@JudyGemstone
Could you explain a bit more, sorry I know it’s a little bit off topic but I’m really interested. So Blair shut him down as he didn’t want to open up the can of worms re mdma?[/quote]
No so much re MDMA, more re alcohol. The govt makes millions off it in tax revenue. Also it would be pretty much impossible to ban it, even though if we’re banning substances based on the harm they cause it should be top of the list!

Some independent scientists comments here:

www.sciencemediacentre.org/reaction-to-the-sacking-of-david-nutt-2/

CourtRand · 17/02/2022 13:57

I'd say most try weed and NOS and around 20% try something stronger.

I think beyond weed it's not really until the early 20s that most try anything else.

CourtRand · 17/02/2022 13:57

That's anecdotal of course though