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To think people shouldn't be calling Kanye 'romantic'

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BudgeUpAnne · 15/02/2022 07:55

Kanye West wants Kim back. She is currently with some bloke called Pete, Kanye up until recently was with a woman called Julia, they've just broken up, no surprise because Kanye has been posting pics of Kim and the kids saying he wants his family back together.

He's now on a crusade to get her back. For valentine's Day he sent a truck of red roses to her house, he's made public declarations of his love on Instagram, has enlisted the "help" of celebrity friends and fans, and is telling his followers to shout KIMYE at Kim and Pete when they see them together.
He's also calling Pete names (Skete?) and generally telling his fans that he's an obstacle.

Last night, Kanye posted screenshots of his messages with Kim where she has asked him to stop doing what he's doing as something bad could happen to Pete and it would be his fault. Kanye's reaction to that was to ask his fans not to hurt Pete, as he was going to hurt him himself. Wtf?

Yet his fans, influencers and celebrity friends are calling him a romantic who just wants his ex wife back, using tag lines such as KimyeForever and trolling Pete. People seem to think it's hilarious and adorable.

Kanye is diagnosed with bipolar, it doesn't sound like he's of a sound mind at the moment, and he's also a massive narc. I'm not a fan of Kim or any of the Kardashians, but this must be really unsettling for her, if it was any normal couple then Kanye would be called abusive and Kim would be on the phone to the police/Woman's Aid

Aibu to think that someone needs to intervene before he does something extreme or encourages his fans to do something extreme?

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Turnippeny · 15/02/2022 11:21

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LuckyAmy1986 · 15/02/2022 11:21

@Turnippeny

Kanye hadn’t done anything to his kids?

What are you on about? What he’s doing right now directly affects his kids and is very damaging. Exploitation at its finest!

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Horst · 15/02/2022 11:25

Must of caught a super fan or a women hater.

Women leave man who’s cheated on her, openly said he wanted someone smarter then her and she’s the bad guy?

His dated how many women since they split?
She’s dated one and hasn’t introduced him to the children both sides confirm that.

Her daughter wants to be on TikTok so she set up a parent controlled comment turned off account.

Sounds like she’s doing a pretty good job at letting the children explore and express while also monitoring them.

He buys the house next door so he can keep tabs, has a hissy fit because he wasn’t invited to the party hosted by mum when he was having his own anyway. But they still let him in. But she’s the one who should give custody up. Won’t take his meds I mean look how well that also went for Kerry Katona with her ups and downs. But his the better parents. Okay.

Yeah nah.

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watchtheglitterdustswirl · 15/02/2022 11:33

@thegreenlight

DH and I were talking yesterday about this. If Kanye were a woman, he would have been sectioned by now.
Definitely. Look what happened to Britney! She was never anywhere near as unhinged as he is right now and they locked her up in her own home for 13 years.
Balonziaga · 15/02/2022 11:34

Apparently KK had to change her holiday plans at the last minute and KW got wind of her destination and tried to follow her and Pete.

meaww.com/is-kanye-west-still-pursuing-kim-kardashian-holiday-plan-miami-rebound-affair-actress-julia-fox

He is without question behaving like an obsessive stalker.

It's just harder for some people to see it because KK's affair with Social Media is a bit vile, so taints her reputation - making her less easy to sympathise with.

If she were anyone else and her rich ex bought the house next door, tried to follow her on holiday, refused meds that stabilized him and sent trucks of roses to her house - it would literally be the script for a thriller/horror. It's the 'Kim-ness' that dilutes the clear dangerous behaviour and horror of his behaviour.

He needs help.
She needs fucking good security (as does Pete)

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GatoradeMeBitch · 15/02/2022 11:39

It's hard to tell with Kanye because he will kick off for publicity - like telling Billie Eilish to personally apologize to Travis Scott for showing concern for her concert-goers, because he and Travis will be performing at Coachella and he won't go if she doesn't say sorry...

But with his daughter's birthday party, apparently he was due to be in another city at the time and was supposed to throw his own celebration for her when he got back. But he decided not to go and threw a tantrum online until he got an invite to the party, where he proceeded to clearly un-nerve his children with his manic behaviour.

And what is this rubbish about "Kim chose him, she has to live with the consequences"? He was only running completely off the rails after their fourth child was born. We're saying that women must be stuck with men who turn abusive because they "chose them?" GTFOOH.

LorelaiDeservedBetter · 15/02/2022 11:39

I haven't seen anyone saying Kanye is romantic. I've only seen negative comments about his behaviour.

I did wonder if he had an album coming out because he always courts publicity and starts public spats when an album is due. Currently, he's attacking Kim, Pete and Billie Eilish.

whynotwhatknot · 15/02/2022 11:40

hes a pathetic narc im sorry but i have bipolar and i dont go round being an idiot

anyone else would say youre being creepy let it go

Adharvan · 15/02/2022 11:45

Thank you for starting a dialogue on this, I came on to post similar.

Haven't RTFT yet but did anybody see that horrific album/song cover he posted of a skinned monkey? He received alot of backlash for it and rightly so.

It seemed bizarre in itself but I can't help but think that's some type of thinly guised threat towards Pete, or atleast an attempt to disturb him.

The correlation being that people online say/joke that he looks like a monkey / curious George etc (not my opinion, purely what I've seen written online)

If these were your every day folk he'd be slapped with a restraining order.

As a survivor of DV and stalking this saga has really disturbed me and I really feel for Kim.

Gardeniafleur · 15/02/2022 11:47

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Oh god no, I actually am someone who believes minors should never be on social media, they can’t consent and we don’t know yet what it will be like for those whose every moment sonogram upwards us been monetised onwards. I mean the parents have commoditised and monetised every cell in their body and removed their right to self-determination and privacy forever.

I read a horrible blind recently where a teen girl from a reality family was very sad, lonely and really just traumatised from her life and the pressure not to spill the tea publicly in case it jeopardised the family fortunes. She wanted to go off the college but couldn’t, and the only people who would be friends with her she could never be sure if it was really HER they liked, very ambitious people targeted her in order to heighten their profile. It was devastating sounding.

I actually work in media and have seen first hand how corrosive and addictive fame is, especially handling the downward trajectory. Handling the modern worlds fickle nature is tough psychologically.

BUT, I wanted to make it clear that KK is entitled to do what she wants free from her controlling ex husband’s pressure. I feel like everyone is so black and white these days it’s important to say you may not approve of so and so doing abc but that doesn’t mean it’s appropriate for them to suffer xyz.

Gardeniafleur · 15/02/2022 11:47

@Turnippeny I have no idea why your message was deleted?

Diqgeneration · 15/02/2022 11:49

I will apologise unreservedly if I was out of order. I like Kim and I wasn’t trying to offend. But the truck full of roses splashed over social media and the paper? How could it not be for show?

Westerman · 15/02/2022 11:51

I used to love KUWTK (help me!) and it was clear that Kanye was dotty about Kim before they became a couple. After they got together, then married, you could see that he was trying to model or mould her, maybe into some sort of caricature; dressing her, hair, make up etc. You could see that he was becoming more & more demanding of her, controlling in a way.

I think his mental health hasn't been good for a very long time so I'm not surprised at all to hear of this latest mess.

Even those pics of him with this new girl, you could see he was doing the same with her, dressing her etc. I actually feel sad for Kim. This must be distressing and scary as hell. He comes across, at times, as thinking he's some sort of god.

Horst · 15/02/2022 11:51

You’d be wrong I actually hate this whole famous for being famous bs.

I’m not a fan of hers as a celeb or his as a celeb.

However it’s clear to see regardless of him having mental health issues his not the fitter parent out of the two like you try to say.

No women or man has to stay with someone just because they had children together. No women or man has to put up with their partners mental health issues full stop.

Stop painting him as this poor little man who just missed his wife his using his children and social media so try to control his ex. You no the social media you hate her using.

As for no child unless. My oldest likes TikTok and posts a few really crappy videos. Didn’t get that from me or his dad maybe extend your thinking to the child will have friends who watch and make videos too and will of seen BOTH mum and dad using social media. Which again makes him the worse parent because his airing all his dirty and controlling laundry on said platform that his child can clearly find and see.

Gardeniafleur · 15/02/2022 11:51

Okay I read back and realised turnipenny was a bit biased on the subject!

Hospedia · 15/02/2022 11:54

Oh look, there's Turnippeny with real whiff of F4J energy.

To address some points raised.

  1. Emotional abuse is domestic abuse and, based on current behaviour, it appears Kanye is emotionally abusive
  1. No one is obliged to stay married to someone just because "they knew what they married"
  1. In Pete Davison's own words, which were texted privately to Kanye and which Kanye chose to share publically, he has not met rhe children so isn't "hanging around them"
  1. It doesn't matter if Pete Davison has a history of "fucking starlets", his sexual history is not on trial and, as a consenting adult, Kim Kardashian is free to have a relationship with whomever she pleases
  1. No one should lose custody of their children because they were the one who ended the relationship, the children are not prizes to be awarded to the moral 'winner'. The children should be wherever it is in their best interests to be and seeing as Kanye has been living apart from the family for several months prior to the separation (he chose to go live in Wyoming while the family lived in LA and this has been cited as a factor in the separation) and given Kanye's current unstable behaviour, it appears in their best interests to be with their mother
angieloumc · 15/02/2022 11:56

Hospedia very well said.

MouseyMoose · 15/02/2022 11:57

@Hospedia great post

Yeahthat · 15/02/2022 11:58

West's not well mentally. I believe he's been diagnosed as bipolar and had to be sectioned before.

Apparently Davison also has mental health issues.

Adharvan · 15/02/2022 12:02

@Yeahthat

West's not well mentally. I believe he's been diagnosed as bipolar and had to be sectioned before.

Apparently Davison also has mental health issues.

Yes he's publicly spoken many times about being diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
Hertsgirl10 · 15/02/2022 12:17

They split up over a year ago she’s been single while he’s had multiple partners, now she’s with someone he’s acting like a toxic abusive bully, people think it’s just him he’s quirky and it’s selling stories but unfortunately it will also be selling Skims and her make up range so I’m sure Kim won’t be too worried about this because they ALL live for publicity. That’s what they strive for and I’m sure her Mum is running her hands with ideas of how to make money/publicity for it to work for them.

The thing Kanye needs to get through his head is, a women checks out of the marriage way before it ends and she’s had a long time to get over it all so Pete or no Pete, she’s never coming home.

I’m sure Kanye knows wayyy too many Kardashian secrets for them to be able to get restraining orders and any other help that Kim clearly needs right now, which is why he’s getting away with it. He certainly won’t have signed Kris Jenner’s NDA’s during the relationship so this is what’s making them put up with this abuse, unfortunately Kim is taking one for the team … again.

Those children looked miserable with their Dad at the Super Bowl.