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To think people shouldn't be calling Kanye 'romantic'

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BudgeUpAnne · 15/02/2022 07:55

Kanye West wants Kim back. She is currently with some bloke called Pete, Kanye up until recently was with a woman called Julia, they've just broken up, no surprise because Kanye has been posting pics of Kim and the kids saying he wants his family back together.

He's now on a crusade to get her back. For valentine's Day he sent a truck of red roses to her house, he's made public declarations of his love on Instagram, has enlisted the "help" of celebrity friends and fans, and is telling his followers to shout KIMYE at Kim and Pete when they see them together.
He's also calling Pete names (Skete?) and generally telling his fans that he's an obstacle.

Last night, Kanye posted screenshots of his messages with Kim where she has asked him to stop doing what he's doing as something bad could happen to Pete and it would be his fault. Kanye's reaction to that was to ask his fans not to hurt Pete, as he was going to hurt him himself. Wtf?

Yet his fans, influencers and celebrity friends are calling him a romantic who just wants his ex wife back, using tag lines such as KimyeForever and trolling Pete. People seem to think it's hilarious and adorable.

Kanye is diagnosed with bipolar, it doesn't sound like he's of a sound mind at the moment, and he's also a massive narc. I'm not a fan of Kim or any of the Kardashians, but this must be really unsettling for her, if it was any normal couple then Kanye would be called abusive and Kim would be on the phone to the police/Woman's Aid

Aibu to think that someone needs to intervene before he does something extreme or encourages his fans to do something extreme?

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LuckyAmy1986 · 15/02/2022 09:40

@BoodleBug51inthink yes got progressively worse over the years I don’t think he was like this when they met!!! I had no mental health issues when I met DH and now do. People change..

GracieLouFreeebush · 15/02/2022 09:40

This is what happens when you live out your life on social media. It's pathetic and ridiculous. It's like having to deal with unhinged toddlers.

Victim blaming at its finest. Not that far from saying this is what happens when you wear a short dress and walk down the street alone as far as I can see.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is all for attention, her included
Well what’s the point in women going to the police then, we obviously like the attention.

She is choosing to be public property here. She is choosing to live out her life on social media. So what if it’s her job. We need to get beyond this place where posting about your whole life to whoever wants to read about it is considered an occupation
She isn’t public property. Nobody owns her. She has every right to share whatever aspect of her life that she wishes to share and yet still be entitled to safety. Why is one occupation seen as less worthy than another?

LizBennet · 15/02/2022 09:41

I am a little suspicious because it all makes her look so desirable and amazing

That is absolutely breathtaking 😳

astoundedgoat · 15/02/2022 09:46

Amazed at the victim blaming suggested in a lot of posts here. Kim has been nothing but discreet and patient about all this, insofar as her visibility permits (i.e. sometimes being pictured with PD by paps etc).

To the people saying "if she cared she'd report it" - I haven't seen her post anything or release any statement that suggests that she has NOT spoken to the police about this? Have I just missed this?

He has serious mental health issues and has regular breakdowns (he possibly goes off any medication while he's recording). He is very upset right now, but she has a lot of support and advice, and is hardly going to use social media to stir up a man who is clearly unwell and struggling right now, but has the resources to harm her and their children.

I disagree with the post above that "She is choosing to live out her life on social media." Looking at her Instagram now, I see nothing there that couldn't be almost anonymous or posted by an assistant. Shots of her body looking amazing in her own clothing range at the gym/beach, magazine covers promoting her contract with Balenciaga, selfies with her kids that say "I love my kids", pictures of her sisters/mother that say "I love my sisters/mother". She's giving absolutely nothing away and is not "living her life out" on Instagram at least.

WellJuhnelle · 15/02/2022 09:51

@BoodleBug51

Everything that the Kardashian family does is to make sure that every element of their lives get maximum attention..... it's how they breathe. KW was a high profile star at the time who took KK to another level of fame when they got together. If he'd been an electrician, she'd never have looked twice at him.

She didn't care about his MH issues then.

So yes I do blame her too - just as I equally blame a man who doesn't take his meds when he has 4 kids.

Yep, I agree. I get the impression that the Kardashian women use men to raise their profile or to distract from other less favourable stories, get what they can out of them and then chew them up and spit them out. Everything they do seems to be for some ulterior motive, directed by Kris Jenner. I wonder if this was the plan for Kanye too but they didn’t take his unpredictability and instability into account. He won’t slink away quietly like Reggie Bush or…the one she married for two days or however long it was. I will admit that his ‘Kris Jong Un’ comment made me smile - he seems to have these all too brief moments where he has clarity and realises how that family works.

I’m in no way blaming Kim or think her and her children should be subjected to what Kanye is doing but using people as pawns in their game couldn’t keep going without consequences.

SartresSoul · 15/02/2022 09:51

Worth noting he has an album out soon and she has a new series out in a few weeks too. I’m always cynical about anything this family does, feel like everything is for publicity.

Having said that, Kanye is very obviously mentally ill. I know he has diagnosed bipolar so probably off his meds and he’s in crisis.

tabulahrasa · 15/02/2022 09:52

@BoodleBug51

Everything that the Kardashian family does is to make sure that every element of their lives get maximum attention..... it's how they breathe. KW was a high profile star at the time who took KK to another level of fame when they got together. If he'd been an electrician, she'd never have looked twice at him.

She didn't care about his MH issues then.

So yes I do blame her too - just as I equally blame a man who doesn't take his meds when he has 4 kids.

He wasn’t diagnosed until they already had kids and had been married a few years, so how would she know when they got together?
CPL593H · 15/02/2022 09:55

I'm not an expert on the doings of the Kardashians, but it seems to me that KK has tried to handle the breakup with KW sensibly/sensitively. He's clearly an unwell man who is not getting and probably won't accept the help he needs and is shielded from facing reality by money and fame. A sad situation all round but hardly her fault and I don't think she's less deserving of sympathy than anyone outside the public eye who has an ex behaving like this.

ChickenStripper · 15/02/2022 09:56

He would have made such a great President too.

tabulahrasa · 15/02/2022 10:02

@ChickenStripper

He would have made such a great President too.
Because?
ChickenStripper · 15/02/2022 10:07

It's a joke @tabulahrasa 😂

Hospedia · 15/02/2022 10:08

To the people saying "if she cared she'd report it" - I haven't seen her post anything or release any statement that suggests that she has NOT spoken to the police about this? Have I just missed this?

The police in the US are very much like the police in the UK when it comes to this sort of thing as in they'll say that mouthing off about taking action isn't the same as taking action and that he's just trying to get a rise out of you and that they can "have a word but it'll probably escalate things" and to "ignore it but ring us if he actually does show up at the door".

CaveMum · 15/02/2022 10:08

I hope that he gets the help that he so obviously needs and that people around KK and her children are taking things seriously.

I guess the only "positive" you could spin out of this is that it's a good teaching opportunity to talk with teens about healthy relationships - talk about boundaries and why it is not acceptable for one person to continuously bombard another with messages and gifts or to call on their friends/family (in this case, fans) to approach the other person in an effort to win them back.

tabulahrasa · 15/02/2022 10:09

@ChickenStripper

It's a joke *@tabulahrasa* 😂
I very nearly put - are you joking? But I was slightly scared you were serious Blush
GingerFoxInAT0phat · 15/02/2022 10:09

I also wouldn’t say the Kardashains/Jenners do everything they can for attention. They do what they can for the most monetary value.

LuckyAmy1986 · 15/02/2022 10:10

I would say they would be more concerned about this damaging their brand than “loving the attention”!

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 15/02/2022 10:10

@ENoeuf

My opinion of PD has gone down massively for getting involved in the shit show that is the Kardashians.
Same.

I've always been fond of him.

Lubeyboobyalt · 15/02/2022 10:17

Massive asshole surrounded by yes men, refuses to take meds as they 'interfere with his creative process' as if he needs to even work anyway, he already has a great legacy of music, all refusing meds is doing is destroying that, plus making life unbearable for his ex and his kids. Ugh

Justilou1 · 15/02/2022 10:20

And Brittney was locked up for 13 years….. This dickhead is basically inspiring the rap/hiphop/whatever the young people call it these days version of a civil war. There are not enough meds in the world to land that ego.

WeatherwaxOn · 15/02/2022 10:26

He's an arrogant idiot that believes the world a)revolves around him and b) owes him a living.

LuckyAmy1986 · 15/02/2022 10:32

My opinion of PD has gone down massively for getting involved in the shit show that is the Kardashians

Maybe under all the media circus and imagery she’s not a bad person and fun to be around? I’ve seen several celebs say she’s the nicest person they’ve ever met.

HesterShaw1 · 15/02/2022 10:33

They split up?

Beefcurtains79 · 15/02/2022 10:34

[quote LuckyAmy1986]@Beefcurtains79 that is disgusting but it’s just not the same!! I remember Taylor was giving as good as she got as well (good for her). He is actively threatening Pete, threatening to hurt him. A celeb spat isn’t comparable[/quote]
I didn’t say it was the same did I? In fact, I specifically said it was a different situation but still comparable in that they both created scenarios where they encouraged their fans to attack someone.
I certainly don’t remember Taylor ‘giving as good as she got’? Unless that’s what you call politely begging them to leave her alone and ‘keep her out of this narrative’ What about that disgusting video of the mannequin Kanye had made of her lying in bed, that Kim thought was so great?
And Amber Rose, did she deserve to have Kanye tell the whole world that he had to have ‘a million showers’ after sleeping with her whilst Kim giggled alongside him?
When Kanye was publically humiliating and threatening Kris Humphries for not agreeing to Kim’s divorce quickly enough, Kim didn’t stick up for him or worry about his safety did she?

LizBennet · 15/02/2022 10:36

Yeah there's a lot to be said about Kim, but I've never read about her being a bitch to people who meet her, quite the opposite.

ENoeuf · 15/02/2022 10:40

LuckyAmy1986

My opinion of PD has gone down massively for getting involved in the shit show that is the Kardashians

Maybe under all the media circus and imagery she’s not a bad person and fun to be around? I’ve seen several celebs say she’s the nicest person they’ve ever met.

Yeah quite possibly but choosing to step into that circus (unless you think they met and it was love at first sight) is what I’m commenting on. You can’t separate KK from her lifestyle choices and the values they present - just changed my opinion on PD that’s all.

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