Will you self isolate if covid positive test?

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Compulsory self-isolation is ending if you test positive with covid. Instead, people are being advised to choose to self-isolate.
In reality, I think many people will not. I would not get paid if I self-isolate but am well enough to work, so why would I forego a week's wages?

So will you self-isolate if you test positive with covid?

YABU - Yes I will self-isolate
YANBU - No I will not self-isolate

Ultimately there is a level at which society is prepared to accept as 'unavoidable'. We accepted a certain number of deaths from flu as acceptable.

And the reality is we all have to die of something and there is a limit to which this can be pushed down.

The question now, is more about how close we are to that point.

We should be asking these rather cold questions because we know how restrictions have impacted on other health issues negatively.

It has always been the case since we got vaccines and anti virals of what more we can do and how long restrictions can be maintained. I don't think it can be much longer in the UK, with the best will in the world.

(Cavet being another strain coming along and throwing a complete spanner in the works, but as it stands the data is increasingly difficult to make the case beyond a couple of months at max).

Same graph from the ft's john Burn-Murdoch.

And whilst flu is less fatal, bad flu years aren't miles off where we are now.

@roastingmichael

If I ever need a reminder of how horribly selfish society can be, I can come back to this thread.

I'm honestly disgusted about the lack of thought and consideration for other people.

This really doesn't mean anything at this point. It's just a lot of words, a poor attempt at emotional blackmail.

You do what you like. Wear a full hazmat alone in your car, never leave the house again, piss your life away cowering behind the sofa, I don't care. Just enough with the abuse of people who want to live their lives. Seriously STOP.

The second paragraph of your post @SexyLittleNosferatu seems to me to be as offensive as the post to which you took exception.

You do what you like. Wear a full hazmat alone in your car, never leave the house again, piss your life away cowering behind the sofa, I don't care. Just enough with the abuse of people who want to live their lives. Seriously STOP.

So people who want to protect vulnerable people should stop with the abuse, but it’s ok for you to be nasty toward them with your language?

Hypocritical much?

This really doesn't mean anything at this point. It's just a lot of words, a poor attempt at emotional blackmail. You do what you like. Wear a full hazmat alone in your car, never leave the house again, piss your life away cowering behind the sofa, I don't care. Just enough with the abuse of people who want to live their lives. Seriously STOP

You are spot on.

@JustLyra

You do what you like. Wear a full hazmat alone in your car, never leave the house again, piss your life away cowering behind the sofa, I don't care. Just enough with the abuse of people who want to live their lives. Seriously STOP.

So people who want to protect vulnerable people should stop with the abuse, but it’s ok for you to be nasty toward them with your language?

Hypocritical much?

I agree. It's as abusive as anything she is complaining about.

Yes but she didn't start it. She's responding with frustration to two years of being called selfish. It gets tedious.

I agree. It's as abusive as anything she is complaining about.

It is.

And for the record I’m not “cowering on my sofa” - I’d just quite like people to be sensible (ie not come spend time round me when they know they have covid) as I’d quite like my daughter to live as long as possible.

I can’t eliminate the risks, but I’d like to think that people have learned enough through this pandemic to help minimise them.

I doubt it though - by all accounts it’s already back to kids with streaming colds at soft play and kids with D&V back at school the next morning.

@Scianel

Yes but she didn't start it. She's responding with frustration to two years of being called selfish. It gets tedious.

Well unless she’s 8 then “I didn’t start it” is a shitty excuse for being nasty

I don't care what she's responding to. I think that language is the sort of deliberately intimidating tripe used by antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists on Facebook. I'm not cowering behind any sofas either and I've never seen anyone in a full hazmat suit. Utter hyperbole.

@ilovesooty

The second paragraph of your post *@SexyLittleNosferatu* seems to me to be as offensive as the post to which you took exception.

and? You're free to take offence on behalf of other people as often as you like.

I'm not taking offence on behalf of other people. I found it offensive.

Depends what work says. If they expect us not to I won't. No WFH, and a dim view on any sick leave.

Well unless she’s 8 then “I didn’t start it” is a shitty excuse for being nasty

"Nasty"? Why don't you stop white knighting for one.

What's nasty is the consistent policing and abuse of others, calling them selfish and disgusting and weak and murderers for the crime of wanting to pay their bills, to put food on the table, to avoid having a breakdown. If pushing back against that abuse is considered "nasty" then I'm more than happy to be a nasty woman.

What's nasty is the way people use "the vulnerable" as a shield for their irrational fears and their desire to control what other people do. They don't give a single solitary fuck about "the vulnerable" before covid and they won't when this is a distant memory.

Well unless she’s 8 then “I didn’t start it” is a shitty excuse for being nasty

You can be considerably older than eight and start to find being called selfish and told that you've got blood on your hands quite, dare I say it, offensive?

@ilovesooty

I'm not taking offence on behalf of other people. I found it offensive.

and?

Your post was unpleasant hyperbole. Other people have been able to express their views without resorting to language like that.

And it's hypocrisy to object to being "policed" while deliberately using exaggerated language designed to intimidate other people.

I'd probably still go for a run/walk outdoors, but I'd not go into the office or to Mass or to see friends/family.

I'm not remotely interested in your opinion sooty. Be offended, be unoffended, attempt to school strangers on the internet, I don't care.

@Crimesean

I'd probably still go for a run/walk outdoors, but I'd not go into the office or to Mass or to see friends/family.

I feel the same way but some people will realistically not be able to to make that choice work wise.

@SexyLittleNosferatu

I'm not remotely interested in your opinion sooty. Be offended, be unoffended, attempt to school strangers on the internet, I don't care.

No, given the general tenor of your posts that doesn't surprise me. As I said, others have the capacity to argue their case with a degree of civility and without intimidation and hyperbole.

Since scientists question this approach and it's just there to save Partygate BoJo's job. Yes I would, I wouldn’t want to be responsible for passing it in to others

No, given the general tenor of your posts that doesn't surprise me. As I said, others have the capacity to argue their case with a degree of civility and without intimidation and hyperbole

If you think that post was 'intimidating' then you must really struggle in the real world lmao.

@DearlyBeloathed

No, given the general tenor of your posts that doesn't surprise me. As I said, others have the capacity to argue their case with a degree of civility and without intimidation and hyperbole

If you think that post was 'intimidating' then you must really struggle in the real world lmao.

I don't, as it happens. Still you've already expressed your support for the post in question. I heard you the first time.