To be worried about russia

[wonderfulworld45]

I have anxiety so might be jumping to conclusions/worrying over nothing, but with all the talk in the news, I'm starting to worry have sleepless nights about war, please
Call me down

I feel scared too, takes me back my childhood in the mid 80s when nuclear war was still a threat...I don't think this will turn nuclear but I'm worried about possible cyber warfare and the impact it would have.

I'm guessing few of the MN experts and their well-connected friends have ever been to the Donbass.

American warmongering is fabulous if done by Democrats, as always.

How much more worry can we take. We've still got a pandemic to worry about and now bloody war. Why should just a few bloody men do this to us

@Ciaram55

But if it went nuclear what would Putin gain, surely he doesn't think there could be a winner.

Exactly. MAD : Mutually Assured Destruction. There would be no winners from any nuclear conflict. Wasn’t it Einstein who famously said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"

Nuclear weapons are weapons that can never really be used, they’re very much a deterrent. But the danger some day is that the wrong person in charge with the wrong temperament and the wrong set of circumstances will make a decision that will destroy our way of life as we know it. They should all be binned.

Always found it ironic how USA is so vocal about WMDs and nuclear weapons held by other countries yet they remain the only country to have used one in anger.

As someone has said above, he’ll invade and not much will be done about it despite all the big talk.

Xenobitch yes but mine goes to a different school, you wouldn't know him

I grew up during the Cold War and am still scared of Russia.

We were in Russia on a tour a few years ago. After a day with us the young man who was our guide revealed to us how frightened he was of the US and Nato so close.

Frankly, I was shocked. What are you afraid of I asked. The US invading etc etc.

I told him of my fear and he was equally shocked or seemed to be. He was very surprised we practiced hiding under our desks.

Yet, on the subject of Estonia, he was quite dismissive saying Russia saved them from the Nazis so why don't they want to be Russian?

Things are just still so messed up.

I spent my teens and early twenties worrying about nuclear war. I refuse to do that again.

I know a family with relatives very much caught up in this. It is genuinely scary for them, not simply something halfway across the world on the news.

STOP WATCHING THE NEWS

Seriously stop it I've banned myself again its not good for my health if its important enough to be on mumsnet I will Google it if my throat closes up (anxiety) I stop

There is literally nothing you can do about the situation is there? I mean unless your a member of Parliament or a soldier your helpless so turn away until you can vote with it

Vote = cope

But voting would be nice

There's been a war in the Ukraine for the last 8 years that got overtaken in the news cycle by Syria, the migrant crisis, Brexit, Covid. Yet it has still been there. There's a commemorative wall outside St. Michael's Monastary in Kyiv that I remember seeing, showing the pictures of thousands of Ukrainians that have died in that conflict.

It never ended, this is just another phase where he wants Kyiv itself, or at the least to install a puppet regime there.

We won't go into Ukraine, the war if there is one will not come here. There are currently 58 other armed conflicts going on the world right now, some against insurgents, some against drug cartels, some are country on country. We can't do anything about them, and we can't do anything about this situation.

I personally feel bad as I've always liked Ukraine, and there's a slight element of concern as my wife's family live not far from the Ukrainian border in an EU country, but I don't believe it would even reach that far.

@Bagelsandbrie

Can anyone explain to me in very simple terms why Russia wants to invade (?) Ukraine…? I have no idea what’s going on and the news articles are so dense to wade through.

@Bagelsandbrie, this article might be of interest.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/putin-ukraine-democracy/621465/

@Bagelsandbrie

Can anyone explain to me in very simple terms why Russia wants to invade (?) Ukraine…? I have no idea what’s going on and the news articles are so dense to wade through.

You might be interested in Russia’s / Putin’s states interests in the Ukraine. Much of what is written in this article of his is simply wrong, and is worrying in its re-creation of made-up collective ethnic identities. But Russia has long had expansionist interests in Eastern Europe. en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

YANBU, it’s not looking great. My worry is that the repercussions from a Russian invasion would spill into confrontation with China. If diplomacy fails there will be consequences from not acting because it makes US and allies look weak.

Just watched the film 1917 and I hate war so much. Why do we as a species do it? I will never understand.

Putin basically reiterated that they are very much not going to win a conventional war. If Ukraine joins nato AND tries to reclaim crimea then shit will go down. When that happens yes worry, until then meh.

Well if he knows he won't win a conventional war surely he doesn't think he'd win a nuclear one.

Unfortunately no one will stand up to him because of gas. Germany don’t do anything, they depend on Russia for gas. Poor Ukraine, it’s like Hitler marching on Poland, only this time the world will let the tyrant do as he pleases because doing nothing benefits them.

I hope we stand together with Ukraine but unfortunately I fear no one will. I’m sure they will remember that no one helped too. God forbid we ever need help in the future.

@marshaBradyo
Retaliation? I'd like to see it not get to that point.
No one wants a war. I'd like to see us send some diplomats over who are knowledgeable and controlled, rather than the shower who went earlier in the week. The rest of the world must laugh at the UK.

Some very serious economic sanctions would be a good start

The UK signed Budapest memorandum in 1994

BJ and Truss will extract personal advantage from highly visible 'diplomacy' but - to borrow a phrase from the 1930s - Ukraine is a far off country of which we know little so I doubt we shall get involved save for some public handwriting.

Putin knows the state of the Russian army better than anyone. He won't invade. He's not stupid

@Ciaram55

How much more worry can we take. We've still got a pandemic to worry about and now bloody war. Why should just a few bloody men do this to us

First we heard nothing but Brexit, then the pandemic came along and we forgot about Brexit. I didn't have WW3 on my 2022 bingo card though

@Grantanow

BJ and Truss will extract personal advantage from highly visible 'diplomacy' but - to borrow a phrase from the 1930s - Ukraine is a far off country of which we know little so I doubt we shall get involved save for some public handwriting.

Boris has threatened economic sanctions today

Putin must be pissing himself laughing seeing as the Tories are knee deep in Russian money

It's very