Part 7.5

[jgw1]

AIBU to still be enjoying falls?

Only a few 😁

Well I'm not thick thanks. Who was it who said when you lower yourself to insults you've lost the argument.

I can see there's grey areas you see. Food at work with others indoors is no different whether your were 'hundreds of miles' from home or at work with others in Downing Street. Both were allowed.

The flat alleged party is of course different but as I said at this point many are past caring.

Well I'm not thick thanks.

Nobody said you were 🤷‍♀️

Still the nibbles at work bollox?
Even Johnson’s lawyers have rejected that one!

It is not worth rehashing the same old argument with janiie, you will just go round in circles.

If civil servants get fined but Johnson doesn't I can imagine there will be quite a few leaks of photos.

*I can see there's grey areas you see. Food at work with others indoors is no different whether your were 'hundreds of miles' from home or at work with others in Downing Street. Both were allowed.&
It's the "reasonably necessary for work" that gives you the grey.
Eating food with others while working hundreds of miles from home - necessary
Eating food with others when your flat/kitchen is upstairs - not necessary

What I don't understand is why the general public were thick enough to stay at home. We could've all be out, partying with colleagues as its a pandemic so reasonably necessary to get pissed up

@DePfeffoff

Drink and food at work and gatherings were allowed.

Only if essential for work purposes.

This.

Computer went mad- Had to go in to Recover Account and put a 7 on the end of my username as it said it was already in existence- which it was by me.

I can see there's grey areas you see. Food at work with others indoors is no different whether your were 'hundreds of miles' from home or at work with others in Downing Street. Both were allowed

If all they were doing in Downing St was eating food whilst working away, the Sue Gray report would have said so and the Police wouldn't have started an investigation, let alone sent out questionnaires asking them to justify their behavior..

@cakeorwine I think you are right there. Won't just be from Dominic Cummings.

Or there could be a claim for constructive dismissal and the details come out in court/tribunal.

They didn't. Some might have but the nhs did still keep feeding its staff and folk would sit in communal areas

That wasn't the case in all NHS facilities, and in any event it proves absolutely nothing about the legality or otherwise of the No. 10 gatherings.

I can see there's grey areas you see. Food at work with others indoors is no different whether your were 'hundreds of miles' from home or at work with others in Downing Street. Both were allowed

Repeating that all the time without the qualifier "if essential for work purposes" won't change the facts, you know, @JaniieJones

NHS staff canteens justify parties in Downing St. Staffrooms in schools justify parties in Downing St.

On what planet is there any equivalence between workers in the public sector being fed (if indeed they were at any point during their 12 hour + shifts, or if released from their school bubble at any point during the day) and the people who set the actual rules breaking those rules while working in the heart of government (answer: none).

This article describes how the majority on this thread feels
www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2022/02/partygate-has-taken-us-all-for-fools

So does this
twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1494032978548248578?s=20&t=qWBfmebyDGcpZWl9OJzs1w

It's just going to take a few questions on Question Time, TV shows, etc from people who said exactly what rules they followed in the workplace and asking the Government if they were being correct in following them to show the hypocrites they are.

The British public hate being taken for fools

That's a great article duncin
Oh I'm so annoyed by the whole thing.

Quibbling about parties and interpretation of the rules is missing the point.

The country was asked to change its behaviour.
It did.
Downing St didn't and should be ashamed.

Worse, the drinking culture is a throwback - that sort of behaviour has long disappeared from virtually all other workplaces.

[quote DuncinToffee]This article describes how the majority on this thread feels
www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2022/02/partygate-has-taken-us-all-for-fools[/quote]
Am I right in thinking that if you are a farmer, it would have been acceptable for one to have had parties throughout lockdown since farmers live at work?

Was this widely publicised?

Quibbling about parties and interpretation of the rules is missing the point

Agree, but its done on purpose to detract from the bigger picture which is damning. When backed into a corner a narcissist will always try and divert attention onto one tiny point they might win and thinks that means they've won the whole argument. Johnson is that narcissist but with a team of lawyers and shills behind him.
It's why these threads get constantly derailed.

Johnson is that narcissist but with a team of lawyers and shills behind him.

I’d probably agree with that, a lot of very successful men (and a few women) have that flaw (although they themselves wouldn’t see it like that), it’s how and why they get to where they are.

@UnconditionalSurrender

Quibbling about parties and interpretation of the rules is missing the point

Agree, but its done on purpose to detract from the bigger picture which is damning. When backed into a corner a narcissist will always try and divert attention onto one tiny point they might win and thinks that means they've won the whole argument. Johnson is that narcissist but with a team of lawyers and shills behind him.
It's why these threads get constantly derailed.

But the derailments provide an excellent opportunity for us to see what the nasty party are truly about.

@StormzyinaTCup

Johnson is that narcissist but with a team of lawyers and shills behind him.

I’d probably agree with that, a lot of very successful men (and a few women) have that flaw (although they themselves wouldn’t see it like that), it’s how and why they get to where they are.

It Johnson is what success looks like, them I for one am very happy not to be successful.

In Johnson's case, flaw is understating it a little.
Yawning chasm of ignominy, perhaps.