You want a Maserati? You better work stud.

[IAmAThreeButIWantATen]

Men who think they're entitled to '10s' when it comes to partners, but they're averaging a 3.
Work harder!

Oh you want a 'gym bunny' girlfriend or 'someone who looks after themselves' .... yet there you are with your beer gut. Oh and she can't go to the gym in case other guys look at her but also she better not let herself go!

Or you want a sexy, confident, earns her own money kinda woman. But after kids can she just also look after them all day, and also work so you're not having to 'pay for her to sit on her arse all day while I work'... but also take care of herself, just not at the gym where others would look at her or where manchild might have to 'babysit' his own kids. Make sure all the housework is also done because 'men don't see mess'... carry the mental load because 'you're better at organising' then perform like a porn star after a day of children, work, cleaning, household management...but not too much because men don't like girls who've 'been around the block'... so maybe be sorta slutty but virginal... toned but not too muscular... parent like you got no job, work like you got no kids... be grateful for any help but also be kind and accept men how they are because 'boys will be boys' and 'men are just like that..'

Get fucked.

I laughed at this OP because I've been online and 90% of what you are saying is true! I get approached all the time by men who would never approach me in real life, but there's something about the online environment that makes them feel like they are choosing a car or something, and they just swipe away whilst having not even basic qualities like looking reasonable, clean and not weird!

I have also been on dates and whilst all have been reasonably fine, there was definitely one or two who need to shave, wash better, just present themselves nicely as women do going on a date.

Ones that say 'no drama', go on about their exes or have slobbery dogs (most men who are single/divorced have dogs, how do they do all their hobbies or go on holiday endlessly as they claim?), I don't date them.

For those saying why date online- once you get to a certain age, there's not many single men just milling about in your social circle and unless you want to hit on your work colleagues, online dating does at least have, at least some of the time, single men (plus a few undecideds and a few cheaters, they are the ones wearing the glasses and hat).

It does almost make you lose hope! That said, I have met one or two really nice men who weren't quite for me, so I don't think everyone on there is terrible, but it is quite eye-opening and eye-popping to see the pictures men post (and I've been to the women's section and they look much nicer!) There was a study that came out last week that said divorced men do much worse than divorced women in terms of depression and other health outcomes, no shit Sherlock when they haven't got their wife running round after them!

You gave me a laugh this am, anyway, OP.

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I have nothing to add to the conversation as I am old and not interested in men anymore however I have to say your thread made me laugh and cry in equal measures.
Just one thought is this Mother Natures way of saving the planet? No more humans breeding and the population shrinks so the pollution reduces? Perhaps there is hope after all.

@Pinkstegosaurus

OP ignoring the obvious vampirism, extreme views are rarely healthy, a balanced approach and less inflammatory phrasing may strengthen your message. About 90% of what you’ve written contains fairly derogatory language about the same women you claim to be defending?

Exactly that. Its not entertaining, its vulgar.

You are so funny op

I know some men like this , won't settle down because frankly they are
Minging but want a 20 something model who will have their children .. so weird ! They are so deluded !

OP - you hit the nail on the head. I nearly spat out my breakfast reading your post - brilliant

I get where you’re coming from having recently dipped a toe in online dating and swiftly removed it again.

Had a message from one man whose profile stated quite blatantly that he was looking for someone who’d integrate into family life quickly with him and his kids. He got quite nasty when I told him I wasn’t interested in looking after his kids or him for that matter.

They are either cyclists or saddos on there in my view.

I thought this was going to be about cars.
I was going to say all the kids I know want Lamborghini's (from watching youtube).

I love this Britney song!!

I wonder if online dating replaced real life meetups too much.

There’s a lot of internal misogyny on this thread.

Probably the ones that are trapped with the sort of man OP is describing.

How dare we want better, and not settle for crumbs when we deserve the whole damn cake.

OP you’re absolutely spot on with everything you’ve said.

'Swipe fuck off' made me laugh, especially having just watched the tinder swindler, but that's a whole other thread!

@Magicpaintbrush

OP - you hit the nail on the head. I nearly spat out my breakfast reading your post - brilliant

Really??

@Pinkstegosaurus

OP ignoring the obvious vampirism, extreme views are rarely healthy, a balanced approach and less inflammatory phrasing may strengthen your message. About 90% of what you’ve written contains fairly derogatory language about the same women you claim to be defending?

I'm quoting what I've seen written. It's not my thoughts. I've heard so many men talk of their 'crazy ex wife' and I often think..oh really... I'm sure you were a real catch. I'm sure she just sat about all day while the kids were small. Sounds unlikely. I'm sure she was controlling and never let you do your little 5hr a day hobby.

What they're telling you with these interactions are= you must be cool,unlike my ex. You will do all kids and house stuff or you're lazy just like her. If I'm not allowed my hobby then you're not a cool girl and a control freak like my ex.
And you don't want to be like that do you? Cos you're not like other girls I've been with... you're so laid back and cool....

Well I'm not cool. I'm a nightmare.
I want interaction and equality and a man that respects me like I do him.

“My ex’s are all crazy, I’m a nice guy”

They’re all crazy? What’s the common denominator there mate?

Swipe fuck off

Meanwhile some men refer to women as 'snakes with tits'

I've heard worse. During my years on a male centric forum, most of them were OK, some were proper great guys I now know in real life... but I also got death and rape threats and one particular prince traced me to my website and sent graphic messages there.

This is why I'm not massively exercised about the "evil man hating" on here that's usually due to being treated like white goods or a robot nanny. Especially when it comes, as it often does, from someone calling themselves LadyGirlMarilynClaraImHavingAWomansPeriod.

Oh wow, I'd missed misguided, 2010s, pop culture feminism! Are you one of those people who's still proud that they're "not like other girls"?

As a Gym Bunny "10", I can confidently state that this person doesn't speak for me.

Sorry for being vulgar.
I'm a bad robo wife

Problem is that I was the ex who would undoubtably became the ‘crazy one’ because I had higher standards so I can see the perspective and as I said before, you may have valid points.

So all men are arseholes and all women who say ‘hmm maybe you’re not articulating your message reasonably’ are robo wives. Again, diluting a reasonable message when actually a decent debate about men’s question online behaviour probably wouldn’t go amiss.

@Pinkstegosaurus

So all men are arseholes and all women who say ‘hmm maybe you’re not articulating your message reasonably’ are robo wives. Again, diluting a reasonable message when actually a decent debate about men’s question online behaviour probably wouldn’t go amiss.

I agree I often feel like a commodity however. Like a robo vacuum. And if I don't perform my tasks then I am to be replaced/repaired there's something wrong with me for being human and not appliance/robot

I'm certainly not insinuating any woman who enjoys home making or anything different from me is wrong or a robot.
I love women.
We are treated like shit

You can see where this deluded attitude comes from though… look at the way they’re treated when they’re growing up! It’s like they’re the sun (or son) around which everyone orbits. No responsibilities, no expectations, no rules… Just “Yes, darling… You deserve whatever your little heart desires…” 🤢

@IAmAThreeButIWantATen now we’re talking! Yes, commodity is definitely something I have resonated with in the past. Pleased to say I’m married to a man who views our relationship as being equal, although I shouldn’t be too pleased…it’s a low bar.

I also have the benefit of seeing my parents relationship - on the outside of it mum was 90% of the time a ‘home maker’ and dad was often away with the forces, they may have had their ups and downs but ultimately no matter how long dad was away for he always came home and did his half of the housework and enabled my mum to pursue her own interests outside of us kids and home.