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AIBU to say that people in the “real world” absolutely do care about Downing Street parties?

349 replies

PuzzledObserver · 09/02/2022 18:54

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60318610

According to Mark Spencer MP, the new leader of the House of Commons, people don’t care about partygate because what really matters to them is their jobs, NHS backlogs and energy prices.

Personally I am capable of caring about all of those AND being incensed by the “do what I say not what I do” attitude of certain members of the Government and its officials.

YABU = of course nobody cares, move on

YANBU = it absolutely matters that they told us one thing and did another themselves.

OP posts:
powershowerforanhour · 09/02/2022 23:19

"I’d rather whoever is releasing evidence in drips and drabs would just chuck everything into the ring and be done with it."

Yes I'd rather they just shovel all the shit out at once, then he can survive or get the push and whoever's next can get on with it.

mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:22

@FloBot7

I didn't break the rules and yes, I care. Every time I start to think I'm done hearing about it I remember the image of the queen sat alone at her husbands funeral. I remember the story of a husband forced to sit in his car while he wife was upstairs giving birth to their stillborn baby all alone. I also remember the video of a son being threatened by a funeral director because he dared to get up and put his arm around his crying mother. So many people were left alone at the most awful moments of their lives because of decisions made by politicians while they were busy having piss-ups at work to celebrate their hard work.
So how do you feel about starmer and pals having a few beers in the office during lockdown?
afizzysweet · 09/02/2022 23:27

I most definitely care and don't want a bunch of people running our country that have absolutely no integrity. Nobody in this country trusts Boris and his mates anymore. Anyone that claims to is a fool. They don't care about us and I don't want people that don't care making decisions on behalf of the British public.

Not a single person that I know would like BJ to remain Prime Minister. Even people that have voted tory for their entire lives have said they won't again, and they want him gone.

RonCarlos · 09/02/2022 23:27

Starmer was having a dinner break during a (legal) work meeting. Not the same.

I care about the parties. Cannot wait for Boris to go although not thrilled about the alternative either.

mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:29

@FrankieBoyleSezLoveOneAnother

WTF has Joe Rogan got to do with this? I think too much vino is being consumed on the graveyard shift at Tory HQ Millbank tonight.
Whoosh
afizzysweet · 09/02/2022 23:29

So how do you feel about starmer and pals having a few beers in the office during lockdown?

Not ideal but he isn't PM. They weren't his rules. They were Boris'.

Starmer is a twat as well but that shouldn't deflect from the absolute joke that is Boris Johnson.

Blossomtoes · 09/02/2022 23:30

@Draineddraineddrained

Also to be pragmatic I want the Tories out in general and Johnson in particular because they are fucking up the country with a great big nail studded broom handle. It doesn't seem possible to mobilise public opinion over the sabotage of the NHS, the gutting of public services, the open door to lobbyists and quid pro quo arrangements with "donors", the habit of "reviewing" any laws or rules they decide they don't like when applied to them, the dispensing ofillions of pounds of public money into the unqualified pockets of their mates, the deliberate transfer of the burden of taxation from those with the most to those with the least. Whether that's because the electorate are thick as pigshit or because this stuff is actually acceptable to them I do not know; but what actually DOES seem to annoy a substantial number of them is the thought of a few illicit parties. So from that cynical perspective Starmer can keep banging on about it until the cows come home as far as I'm concerned. Or at least until the chickens come home to roost.
Yes.
mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:30

@RonCarlos

Starmer was having a dinner break during a (legal) work meeting. Not the same.

I care about the parties. Cannot wait for Boris to go although not thrilled about the alternative either.

Says who?

What was legal about it?

lightisnotwhite · 09/02/2022 23:30

@WanJames

I care. I couldn’t attend a funeral of a family member and couldn’t see another family member in a care home.
Nor could or did they though. I ‘ll be interested in the report. None of the parties sound like parties I’ve been too. Actually tell a lie..I had cake with some of the kids and staff I work with over lock down as they couldn’t have friends round. Didn’t stop me from not going to supermarkets more than I needed, not seeing friends or my parents or wearing a mask outside of work.
mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:31

@afizzysweet

So how do you feel about starmer and pals having a few beers in the office during lockdown?

Not ideal but he isn't PM. They weren't his rules. They were Boris'.

Starmer is a twat as well but that shouldn't deflect from the absolute joke that is Boris Johnson.

He voted for those rules and every other one. But you are correct.
Blossomtoes · 09/02/2022 23:33

Says who?*

Durham police.

DuncinToffee · 09/02/2022 23:36

mummykel16
Says who?
What was legal about it?

Durham Police
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60286234

mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:36

@Blossomtoes

Says who?*

Durham police.

Yes because they have been great policing politicians Ferguson Cummings and others who we all know broke the rules, as I said rules for thee
mummykel16 · 09/02/2022 23:38

Work meetings just like boris

Seemssounfair · 09/02/2022 23:41

I care. The consequences of the restrictions so many had to endure, including my family, were beyond horrific. And still the torys struggled to hide the smirks on their faces when opposition MPs challenge them.

I listened to BJs apology and thought here we go again. Then I listened to Keir Stammer (not a fan of him normally) and Ian Blackford and cried and cried.

It really was a case of - as long as we get the minions to take the pain, to suffer for months we can party through the whole thing and do what the fuck we want.

FloBot7 · 09/02/2022 23:53

So how do you feel about starmer and pals having a few beers in the office during lockdown?

@mummykel16 Equally appalled? Why wouldn't I be?

Blossomtoes · 10/02/2022 00:00

@mummykel16

Work meetings just like boris
I wish my work meetings had involved champagne and tinsel.
StormzyinaTCup · 10/02/2022 00:07

He made the rules he broke the rules, it's crap and a lot of people won't forget and will vote accordingly if they feel strongly about it at the first opportunity they get.

We currently have a live 'situation' in Ukraine, energy bills are going through the roof where people are going to have to choose between heating and eating, we have a massive backlog in cancer treatments, interest rates are on the up and the economy has taken a hammering but no, hold the front page, the hot topic of conversation is whether an open packet of crisps and a bottle of wine constitutes a party!

I'm traditionally a floating voter but is there another party for me to vote for? not really since Cervixgate. The possible erosion of women only spaces etc for myself and my daughter is too big an issue and too much of a gamble for me to take. If a GE were called tomorrow I'd vote blue and hope I don't come to regret it as I did with Tony Blair.

BoredtoTiers · 10/02/2022 00:12

I care, but rather than the parties per se, it's about the blatant hypocrisy that they don't even care to cover up.

I care because they are still prosecuting people who can ill afford it for pandemic breaches while the cost of living skyrockets, in part due to a Brexit the Prime Minister championed purely for personal political gain.

I care for all the people who were subjected to the enforcement of social distancing and kept apart from dying loved ones and at funerals while they partied

I care because a government that wasted £8.7Bn of public funds on PPE, is still telling us to tighten our belts and hike taxes for middle income earners, while not even having the good grace to hide their suitcases of wine and personal law breaking.

They are shameless. They do not believe they are accountable to the public and the parties put this into stark relief because in themselves they are trivial, but still they can't apologise properly and move on. Instead they continue to deflect, deceive and bluster.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 00:15

@FloBot7

So how do you feel about starmer and pals having a few beers in the office during lockdown?

@mummykel16 Equally appalled? Why wouldn't I be?

Fair enough
LadyWithLapdog · 10/02/2022 00:17

I care and I'm not moving on.

I have seen dozens of people reach the absolute depths of despair and depression through isolation because they followed the rules. All ages.

I've said goodbye to staff members who did not get a leaving do after dozens of years of service.

My children missed out on parties, friendships, the older ones on kissing, shagging.

We did follow the rules as we thought it was the right thing to do. We were also scared.

All the while Johnson and chums were getting pissed and laughing at the plebs.

Now they expect us to believe they have our interests at heart regarding the economy and the NHS and day to day life? Pull the other one.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 00:18

I wish my work meetings had involved champagne and tinsel.

So you're just jealous you didn't get the chance then

Hawkins001 · 10/02/2022 00:24

@Blossomtoes

I'd rather focus was on getting back to track with the state of the economy, jobs etc

And you trust this bunch of dishonest incompetents to do that?

Who then would be better suited and why ?
LadyWithLapdog · 10/02/2022 00:26

@mummykel16 you're just being obtuse and goady.

ClaudineClare · 10/02/2022 00:26

We currently have a live 'situation' in Ukraine, energy bills are going through the roof where people are going to have to choose between heating and eating, we have a massive backlog in cancer treatments, interest rates are on the up and the economy has taken a hammering

Which is why we need a leader with gravitas, integrity and the grit to get on with the job. The lying, lazy, boozehound we are stuck with is not up to the job and never has been.