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AIBU to say that people in the “real world” absolutely do care about Downing Street parties?

349 replies

PuzzledObserver · 09/02/2022 18:54

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60318610

According to Mark Spencer MP, the new leader of the House of Commons, people don’t care about partygate because what really matters to them is their jobs, NHS backlogs and energy prices.

Personally I am capable of caring about all of those AND being incensed by the “do what I say not what I do” attitude of certain members of the Government and its officials.

YABU = of course nobody cares, move on

YANBU = it absolutely matters that they told us one thing and did another themselves.

OP posts:
NETSRIK · 10/02/2022 19:39

Someone who doesn't care about the parties wanting to keep things equal. Oh the irony.

derxa · 10/02/2022 19:51

I care because I stood at a nurses station begging for them to let my brother see his dying father because he wasn’t close enough to death yet to warrant 2 visitors. Flowers Sorry for your loss But nurses aren't always kind. I remember when my brother was in a coma in an ICU. The nurses sat at their station having a leaving party. This was a long time ago. Obviously BJ is a disgrace but some workers seem to have taken it upon themselves to interpret the 'rules' in the most authoritarian way possible.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 20:00

[quote Sprucewillis]@mummykel16 Yeah I am outraged by that to but all sanctions have been dropped as of next month so. PS that was under the current party also.[/quote]
It was indeed under the current party, supported by?
As of next month, what of those already gone?

This is one of the reasons I say they are all the same.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 20:02

@Blossomtoes

The tens of thousands already sacked and the rest threatened with the sack, for not following unnecessary mandates

Do keep up. That’s no longer happening. Another Tory U turn.

It's already happened for thousands, supported by starmer, do keep up
mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 20:08

@VikingOnTheFridge

A better description would be simply not giving a fuck. They thought it was fine for ordinary people to suffer while they partied.
Pretty much and they are right
SweetFelicityArkright · 10/02/2022 20:20

@Blossomtoes

The tens of thousands already sacked and the rest threatened with the sack, for not following unnecessary mandates

Do keep up. That’s no longer happening. Another Tory U turn.

Except for the care workers already sacked.

We really are fucking invisible aren't we?!

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 20:37

Only to idiots obsessed with parties that In reality had no impact on anyone

skodadoda · 10/02/2022 20:40

@Blossomtoes

The tens of thousands already sacked and the rest threatened with the sack, for not following unnecessary mandates

Do keep up. That’s no longer happening. Another Tory U turn.

Yes, we know it’s no longer happening but many people left because of the threat of being sacked. The U turn was because the Tories finally acknowledged that they couldn’t possibly lose so many from an already depleted workforce.
Sprucewillis · 10/02/2022 21:21

@mummykel16 no they aren't all the same. Keep telling yourself that though chick. U OK Hun?

LexMitior · 10/02/2022 21:35

I don't think the party thing was all that much of a surprise, Tories being what they are. But what is a surprise is absolutely rubbish they are at handling the problem and how incompetent they look and are.

That is definitely new. The hypocrisy not so much. Basically, they don't actually know what they are doing and it shows. It does not normally show but that is what you get from a government run by journalists and twentysomethings from Chelsea. Its bad.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 21:43

@LexMitior

I don't think the party thing was all that much of a surprise, Tories being what they are. But what is a surprise is absolutely rubbish they are at handling the problem and how incompetent they look and are.

That is definitely new. The hypocrisy not so much. Basically, they don't actually know what they are doing and it shows. It does not normally show but that is what you get from a government run by journalists and twentysomethings from Chelsea. Its bad.

And a complicit opposition
Blossomtoes · 10/02/2022 22:10

And a complicit opposition

Another meaningless contribution. In what way is the opposition complicit in the government’s lying, hypocrisy and all round corruption?

Berengaria1 · 10/02/2022 22:13

I'm more worried that Liz Truss is our foreign secretary. She is seriously out of her depth. It's like watching a child playing at being a grown up. Very concerning at this time.

I care about the parties. I'm furious about the lying. But DH and I are watching tv in disbelief that a person of such incompetence is holding such a critical post.

LexMitior · 10/02/2022 22:18

I think really a lot of old Tory voters have not yet woken up the idea that their party which was until recently the party of the shires is now a collection of pirate party people who are not very clever. It has changed into a Johnson cult, and these grandees and old school Tories do not know what do about it.

Which is why, rather unusually, they look publicly hypocritical and also, morally incontinent. This won't be forgotten because of the very serious emotion manipulation that was done to people to get them to stay indoors - people were frightened, they were lonely, they died alone, they had a hellish time. No people do not forget that sort of thing.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/02/2022 22:20

Berengaria1

I'm more worried that Liz Truss is our foreign secretary. She is seriously out of her depth. It's like watching a child playing at being a grown up. Very concerning at this time.

I care about the parties. I'm furious about the lying. But DH and I are watching tv in disbelief that a person of such incompetence is holding such a critical post.“

Yes, this.

John Major got it absolutely right today. The Cabinet are lightweights.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 22:27

@Blossomtoes

And a complicit opposition

Another meaningless contribution. In what way is the opposition complicit in the government’s lying, hypocrisy and all round corruption?

What did they do to stop it, to curb the excess of Johnson, what new laws or repeals of old ones did they vote against, how did they help those brushed aside after they put themselves on the line to do their jobs and help others at the most dangerous of times?

You can carry on crowing about parties I'm far more involved upset about things that have and are having a real impact on people .

The media has done well making the issue of the day parties instead of the attack on health care workers done under the guise of mandates

Blossomtoes · 10/02/2022 22:44

What did they do to stop it, to curb the excess of Johnson

What can they do? He’s got an 80 seat majority.

Sprucewillis · 10/02/2022 22:46

The only people complicit in the horror that is the Conservative government are the people who voted for them.

LexMitior · 10/02/2022 22:47

Yes blame the people who put him there - whats the point of going after Labour?

Really, its as if people didn't Johnson was terrible - he was. What did people expect, that he'd suddenly become a decent rule maker when his whole life had been dodging responsibility?

What happens to all the structures if you put a man like that at the top? Isn't it quite obvious that everyone follows his lead?

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 22:56

@Blossomtoes

What did they do to stop it, to curb the excess of Johnson

What can they do? He’s got an 80 seat majority.

They could have tried, at least made the effort and voted against it as a few did, around 20 from labour for a start, I have no time for starmer Boris or the other cowards who chose to vote for the sacking of those who put themselves most at risk helping others, I also have no time for the media who choose to bury this for months under a veritable flood of party time nonsense, while at the same time somehow managing to slag off those who protested at being used abused and sacked.
mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 22:58

@Sprucewillis

The only people complicit in the horror that is the Conservative government are the people who voted for them.
And those who continue to make labour unelectable
Blossomtoes · 10/02/2022 23:01

They could have tried, at least made the effort and voted against it

Voted against what?

Sprucewillis · 10/02/2022 23:01

@mummykel16 No just the Tory voters. Can't pin any of this on Labour I'm afraid no matter how hard you try. Your logic is completely flawed TBH.

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 23:06

[quote Sprucewillis]@mummykel16 No just the Tory voters. Can't pin any of this on Labour I'm afraid no matter how hard you try. Your logic is completely flawed TBH.[/quote]
Yeah because there was so much to vote for at the last election, bloody heck

A choice of frying pan or fire is no choice at all

mummykel16 · 10/02/2022 23:06

@Blossomtoes

They could have tried, at least made the effort and voted against it

Voted against what?

Says it all really.
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