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Vardy v Rooney - "nasty bitch"

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Hunderland · 09/02/2022 01:19

Phone dropped in the North Sea? Everything 'unfortunately' wiped from devices?

YABU - those things really were totally coincidental that happened just after they were told to hand them in

YANBU yeah ...right...

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DrSbaitso · 15/04/2022 12:20

I wonder if it's intended to bolster Vardy's defence that Watt keeps losing/destroying/refusing evidence. Making it look like she's the leak instead of Vardy, but while attempting to dissuade Rooney from launching a new case after this one, against her.

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Hunderland · 15/04/2022 15:03

It just makes Vardy and her entourage look completely, utterly dodgy AF. And if this is the way to get round giving or providing evidence / devices etc - and they get away with it - then woah, if I ever get accused of anything North Sea / psychiatrist here I come Hmm

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prh47bridge · 15/04/2022 17:30

@DrSbaitso

I wonder if it's intended to bolster Vardy's defence that Watt keeps losing/destroying/refusing evidence. Making it look like she's the leak instead of Vardy, but while attempting to dissuade Rooney from launching a new case after this one, against her.
I believe Rooney will argue that Watt leaked on Vardy's behalf. We already know that Vardy got Watt to leak to the press when she was helping the paparazzi get a photo of wives and girlfriends at the World Cup.

Whilst it is possible that this series of unfortunate incidents is genuine, it feels like Vardy knows that Rooney has to prove her allegation is true in order to win the libel case and is hoping that she can prevent this by destroying all the evidence. Someone should tell her that the court is entitled to assume that the evidence is being destroyed because it is incriminating.

DrSbaitso · 15/04/2022 17:57

Someone should tell her that the court is entitled to assume that the evidence is being destroyed because it is incriminating.

Surely her lawyers have told her this?

Am I right in thinking that the most recent ruling was that Rooney can win if she can prove that Watts leaked on Vardy's behalf? Since that wouldn't be materially different, in terms of loss of reputation, from saying Vardy did the leaking herself?

prh47bridge · 15/04/2022 18:17

Surely her lawyers have told her this?

One would hope so, but a lot of clients think they know better than their lawyers.

Am I right in thinking that the most recent ruling was that Rooney can win if she can prove that Watts leaked on Vardy's behalf?

I don't remember a specific ruling on that (and I'm not going through the judgements to check!), but that should certainly be the position. If Vardy is responsible for the leak, Rooney's allegation is substantially true regardless of whether Vardy spoke to the press herself or Watt did so on her behalf.

JudgeJ · 15/04/2022 18:19

So her agent's phone got dropped in the North Sea

Why does someone who merely sleeps alongside a footballer need an agent? What talent does he promote? Other than as 'wife of', I've never heard of her.

DrSbaitso · 15/04/2022 19:43

@JudgeJ

So her agent's phone got dropped in the North Sea

Why does someone who merely sleeps alongside a footballer need an agent? What talent does he promote? Other than as 'wife of', I've never heard of her.

She. Agent's a woman.

And you've heard of Vardy now, haven't you? Maybe it's all a big conspiracy and Vardy's upcoming settlement is actually payment for a great PR job. No such thing as bad publicity.

JudgeJ · 15/04/2022 20:45

And you've heard of Vardy now, haven't you?
As the bedfellow of a successful footballer I have clearly 'heard' of her but I am still unable to say what she actually does, hence she had no real existance in her own right. Surely women are not defined by the person with whom the share a bed?

DrSbaitso · 15/04/2022 20:58

@JudgeJ

And you've heard of Vardy now, haven't you? As the bedfellow of a successful footballer I have clearly 'heard' of her but I am still unable to say what she actually does, hence she had no real existance in her own right. Surely women are not defined by the person with whom the share a bed?
Not to me. I only heard of her because of this amazing case. So to me, she's one of the women who brought about the nickname Wagatha Christie. And for that, I'm kind of grateful.
anotherdaynotanotherdollar · 29/04/2022 13:16

Interesting day today. Just when you think Vardy couldn't get any worse she throws her best mate under a bus. They were as thick as thieves and clearly in in together in my opinion!
@prh47bridge what do you think court will make of this?!

balalake · 29/04/2022 13:27

I wonder if the Prime Minister will seek to have one or other of them as Tory candidates. The way this has panned out and some of the defence used comes out of Mr Johnson's playbook.

Though maybe they don't lie enough for him.

Idontgiveashitanymore · 29/04/2022 13:48

I’m sick of hearing about this now. It should have been sorted privately . I think they are both as bad as one another and it’s the kids I feel sorry for.
im team CR now but I really don’t like her.
like VR even less

ajandjjmum · 29/04/2022 14:15

Idontgiveashitanymore · 29/04/2022 13:48

I’m sick of hearing about this now. It should have been sorted privately . I think they are both as bad as one another and it’s the kids I feel sorry for.
im team CR now but I really don’t like her.
like VR even less

As has been stated before, CR cannot just let it be, as she would then have been found guilty by default.

I'm sure that's not the correct legal terminology, but the general gist from what I've picked up.

prh47bridge · 29/04/2022 14:19

@anotherdaynotanotherdollar It is difficult to predict. A lot will depend on how well Vardy comes across on the witness stand. The court may accept her case that Watt was freelancing. But my take on it, coupled with all the "accidents" that have prevented disclosure, is that she should lose.

It would be fun if Watt now sues Vardy for libel for saying that she was freelancing when she was, in fact, acting under Vardy's instructions.

prh47bridge · 29/04/2022 14:22

Having said that, as far as I can see we don't have Vardy's actual statement. We only have the interpretation of that statement by Rooney's lawyers. Vardy's lawyers argue that this does not alter her case. Without seeing her witness statement it is impossible to be sure.

newnamethanks · 29/04/2022 14:27

Oh my, Ms Vardy could certainly give the politicians a run for their money. Blimey. And poor Ms Watt. Still too fragile to contribute. Vardy has still not withdrawn her action despite her surprise on learning of her agent's behaviour. I hope she's got some savings, lawyers don't come cheap.

ComDummings · 29/04/2022 14:31

Vardy comes across so badly in all of this. She should have just denied it in the press and brushed it under the rug. But she made a mistake suing Coleen, even if she wins she just comes across so untrustworthy now.

anotherdaynotanotherdollar · 29/04/2022 14:38

prh47bridge · 29/04/2022 14:19

@anotherdaynotanotherdollar It is difficult to predict. A lot will depend on how well Vardy comes across on the witness stand. The court may accept her case that Watt was freelancing. But my take on it, coupled with all the "accidents" that have prevented disclosure, is that she should lose.

It would be fun if Watt now sues Vardy for libel for saying that she was freelancing when she was, in fact, acting under Vardy's instructions.

Now that would be fun!

Thanks for your opinion.. much appreciated.

It's a pity it can be live like Jonny and Amber 😂

thebellagio · 29/04/2022 17:47

So if allegedly Watts has confessed, would that not prove that Vardy was innocent and therefore win the case?

I’m a bit confused

ComDummings · 29/04/2022 18:46

thebellagio · 29/04/2022 17:47

So if allegedly Watts has confessed, would that not prove that Vardy was innocent and therefore win the case?

I’m a bit confused

I’m not sure, but CR said the leak was from RVs account specifically and Watts would have had access to that account.

prh47bridge · 29/04/2022 19:02

thebellagio · 29/04/2022 17:47

So if allegedly Watts has confessed, would that not prove that Vardy was innocent and therefore win the case?

I’m a bit confused

Watt was Vardy's agent. If she was leaking to the press with Vardy's consent, Vardy should lose.

nauticant · 30/04/2022 12:05

It's interesting to see the broad outline of events.

After the initial reveal by Rooney, Vardy and Watts seem to remain close, and once legal proceedings had started, many possibly highly pertinent communications between them vanish through a series of unfortunate and surprising accidents.

Rooney fails in her attempt to make Watts a defendant in the proceedings.

Watts seems to succeed in escaping cross-examination on the grounds of ill-health.

With the destruction of possibly highly pertinent evidence, and Watts unlikely to appear in court either as a defendant or as a witness, Vardy appears to throw Watts under the bus by making her defence that Watts is the responsible person.

One could wonder whether there's now a rift between Vardy and Watts or they remain close and for some reason Watts is willing to take the blame.

Murdoch1949 · 30/04/2022 19:45

Hundreds of thousands, probably more, spanked of Rooney & Vardy money (husbands' not wives'). If I have to choose, Vardy is the malicious one, has admitted to selling stories to The Sun, say no more, that's the pits. Rooney was probably pissed off about it & rushed into legal action. They are both fools. Get jobs ladies please.

nauticant · 30/04/2022 21:54

Rooney was probably pissed off about it & rushed into legal action.

You have misunderstood. Once Rooney was sued for defamation she either had to defend herself in the High Court or to completely accept Vardy's case against her and hand over a load of money.

Once Rooney decided not to agree with Vardy's version of events, the only thing she could do was to defend herself until either there's a decision in the High Court or Vardy realises that to stop the self-harm she should withdraw her legal case.

Rooney isn't the one with the choices here.

newnamethanks · 30/04/2022 22:31

And hopefully, Rooney will be receiving an award of costs against Vardy. And Mr Vardy will not be happy. I feel a bankruptcy coming on.

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