AIBU TO WONDER HOW IN GOD'S NAME PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE INRESE IN ENERGY PRICES

[Diamondsareforever123]

OK this obviously won't affect those who are lucky enough to have money - but - how are those on low incomes/benefit, poor pensioners, etc. ever going to possibly be able to afford the energy price increases? Also the increases will have a knock-on price increase effect on everything we buy - food, clothes ...... I am concerned.

@BringBackCoffeeCreams

I was in tears last night watching a news report on how this will be even worse for people with disabilities. How do you charge your electric chair less? Or use your CPAP machine less? What happens with your hoist to get in/out of bed if you can't afford electricity. How has one of the richest countries in the world come to this?

Yep. The friend I mentioned in a pp.. she relies on a CPAP machine. Also food banks, and that was before this energy bill crisis.

We had No central heating in our house until I was 15 . And ivy growing through the walls . It was miserable . Especially going to bed .

And my dad never earnt more than 70 pounds per week .

Clothes from jumble sales and no car for quite a few years . Not a conservative government btw .

But also we never had mobile phones or loans on cars or a high mortgage or expensive tv contracts .

Unfortunately nowadays there are also a lot of monthly commitments that people are tied in to . And they can’t reduce them even if they want to .

Atomic Shrimp on YouTube does videos on extreme food saving. Not sustainable long term as it would be so depressing but could manage it for a week every now and then. His last one was £5 for a weeks worth of meals for 1 person.

The Government has just funded a furlough scheme for millions. Where is the money to come from? The country brayed to lock down. It cost.

Wage inflation will increase. House price inflation will stagnate. It's all swings and roundabouts. Huge open plan living spaces will go out of fashion again. What goes round comes round.

Rabblesthecat
Learn to read the room,twit.

Rabblesthecat
Pah!

It is what it is…….

Just about to buy car number 3

So hoping it’s electric!

@TheFormidableMrsC...
i know. Im sorry. my head goes to quick for...my typing tsructured sentances.
that said, i read it back before replying.i can see what it says...suppose thats NOT very forumy.
also. i pronounced form yy dabble when i read your name.

With new houses being built etc all the time, how many more energy accounts will exist in 3,4 years time? All paying £40 a year for a loan the property never benefited from as it didn’t exist in October 2022.

Fucking clever way to generate some extra cash for the government.

Absolute cunts.

Yeah it's insane. Costs of all good will go up
It's nuts we have a fairly big house and a big power bill I pay 220 a month now. But from this month's for fixed 3 years it's up to 360 a month. It's madness.
So looking for ways to cut costs and reduce power usage. We can take the hit as I have a well paid job but I don't know how many others will manage or if I lost my job etc.

Standard of living will drop. No coffees, restaurant meals, days out, holidays etc. With corresponding knock-on effects on the leisure and hospitality industry.

We are affording everything atm, but if things get worse (We're with Bulb who gave hiked our bill 50%) will have to drop some luxuries like all our streamed TV, Sky (TV and Broadband), our Deezer subscription and other bits. We are paying off a large loan too, which doesn't help, but I'm saving as much as I can each month to over-pay it. Ban takeaways. Reduce day trips. Less holidays (one a year). We don't have a car and have free bus and tube travel through my job so that's something. We'll get by. But I'm outraged for those people who won't, through no fault of their own. 🤬

How has one of the richest countries in the world come to this?

Unlimited greed, built into the system.

I could bore on forever that if companies' legal priority is to make money for shareholders, not to provide services for customers or fit conditions for workers, then society is screwed. That is capitalism taken to its grossest extreme and it is what we have and have had in UK for too long.

For those in Scotland, the SNP refused to support a recent motion proposing a windfall tax on energy companies.

‘ We do have a dishwasher and I’m wondering about using that less’.

It’s cheaper to run a full dishwasher than it is to run the tap to heat 8-10 sink fulls of water to wash the same amount of dishes. Dishwashers are much more efficient because the water goes in cold and is heated via electric. The water in the tap is heated by gas so costs more. I think a lot of people may end up doing things like this that are a false economy.

People with lots of money, and people who bought solar panels 10 years ago before the FIT dropped will be OK.
It's very worrying and will hit people with pre-pay meters the hardest.

I just don't get how the media actively celebrate house prices rising and rising by insane amounts, and rents shooting sky high as if it's a good sign of a healthy economy instead of massive debt that cripples people and stagnates the economy.
We can't just sell houses to each other, we need workers, we need industry and innovation.

This inflation wave is just another symptom of a system that grooms us from uni to retirement to take on more and more debt. The whole thing stinks.

I’m very worried. We are freezing in our house. I can’t put the heating on for long because I’m so worried about the bills. My children keep having long luxurious showers and it’s making me so worried about paying. They don’t understand. I know I’m not struggling as much as some. But it’s a big concern. Also prices don’t drop after they have risen.

@Whattochoosenow

For those in Scotland, the SNP refused to support a recent motion proposing a windfall tax on energy companies.

Nothing about our Govt surprises me. What were their reasons, do you know?

I can’t wait to see what Forbes comes up with on their crisis plan spending.

There are other knock on effects as well. I run a business and our gas bill has doubled in the last 3 months. That on its own we could cover, but other suppliers have increased their prices as well. One component we buy has increased from £30 a unit to over £100.
We can’t absorb this increase and so have had to look to China to source an alternative, although our business tries to buy from other British suppliers, especially smaller businesses, as part of our philosophy.
Unfortunately we also need to be price competitive so that people actually buy our product, so these rises mean that we end up buying less from other British businesses, which then has a knock on effect to their balance sheet and it continues in a downward line.
This is really affecting so many people - I know lots of people on good incomes and they’re also saying that they’re cutting back on things. I know it’s not the same as heat or eat but if everyone who normally ate out twice a week now only does that once a week, or twice a month, that’s a huge drop in income for hospitality, who will then lay off waiting staff, kitchen staff etc. I’m being simplistic but energy bills going up has such a huge impact on the rest of the economy.

It’s obvious from the responses to @tolerable you lot aren’t good at reading Scot’s and don’t know how bad things are getting up here…and not because of the tories…well not all …

@ISpyCobraKai

Back to heat or eat. I did it when Dd was little and it was fucking shit.

Same. I did this pretty much the whole time kids were small. I resent going back to it. Really resent it. It was the time I was most ill in my entire life. I will not be ill again for months at a time. So I will heat, not eat. Fucked off is not quite enough.

Stop fucking electing the tories. When will people bloody learn?! Millions of low income people have voted the conservatives in. Its Turkey's voting for Christmas.

@Snowiscold

It’s frightening. We have turned our heating off and are now limiting our hot water. Daily baths and showers are stopping. A daily bath was a big luxury for me - I’m disabled and it helps - but it’s stopping. Washing machine use is being cut to once a week. We don’t have a tumble dryer. We do have a dishwasher and I’m wondering about using that less. It makes you a bit lazy - it’s often full of just cups and glasses.

Read this the other day :

But how does water use vary when looking at a dishwasher versus hand washing? A modern dishwasher uses 11 to 13 litres of water per cycle on average, while washing by hand can use up to nine times that amount if you rinse everything under a running tap.

RosesAndHellebores

The Government has just funded a furlough scheme for millions. Where is the money to come from? The country brayed to lock down. It cost.

This.

How did we all think this we going to be paid for?
There no such thing as government money.
There is only taxpayers money.
It’s all be spent, more borrowed, and that spent too.

@MondayYogurt

I just don't get how the media actively celebrate house prices rising and rising by insane amounts, and rents shooting sky high as if it's a good sign of a healthy economy instead of massive debt that cripples people and stagnates the economy. We can't just sell houses to each other, we need workers, we need industry and innovation.

This inflation wave is just another symptom of a system that grooms us from uni to retirement to take on more and more debt. The whole thing stinks.

This is a good point, and I totally agree. Its a worldwide issue. Its so incredibly crass and greedy to celebrate the fact that the next generation has to now take on crippling mortgages for the rest of their lives. Want to change career or reduce work hours? Nope. Not for the next 40 years anyway. You're locked in to debt servitude to pay for a shoebox. What the hell is the point. I predict a revolt in the next few years. Things could get scary.