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AIBU TO WONDER HOW IN GOD'S NAME PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE INRESE IN ENERGY PRICES

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Diamondsareforever123 · 05/02/2022 17:45

OK this obviously won't affect those who are lucky enough to have money - but - how are those on low incomes/benefit, poor pensioners, etc. ever going to possibly be able to afford the energy price increases? Also the increases will have a knock-on price increase effect on everything we buy - food, clothes ...... I am concerned.

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mojo7264 · 08/02/2022 13:01

www.thenational.scot/news/19906439.energy-crisis-scottish-government-launches-4m-scheme-help-people-rising-bills/

The link above will hopefully give some much needed help for those living in Scotland struggling with their energy bills. Apologies if it has already been posted.

mojo7264 · 08/02/2022 13:04

Whole article in case the link doesn't work!
MORE than 400 charities, organisations and advisers have signed up to refer Scots struggling with their energy bills to a £4 million support fund.

The Scottish Government scheme is being administered by national advice service Advice Direct Scotland, and “referral partners” can still register to help their clients hit by the cost-of-living crisis.

Thaw Orkney, a charitable organisation that assists fuel poor households, has been able to secure individual grants averaging around £350 to dozens of households since the fund opened in December – making payments directly to people’s energy providers or supporting clients with weekly top-up texts.

These awards are helping households to manage their energy bills or reduce their debts, sometimes even clearing arrears altogether.

READ MORE: What food prices are rising in the UK due to inflation?

Rachael Taylor received £350 towards her energy bill through Thaw, after the cost of her electricity

more than doubled in the winter months – leaving her having to choose between heating her home or refuelling her car.

“It puts my head above water financially and means I don’t have to stress over where it’s all going,” she said.

The Home Heating Support Fund is open until March 31 and applications can be made on behalf of individuals by referral partners through www.homeheatingadvice.scot.

Charities, housing associations, and community organisations which provide energy or debt advice are encouraged to register online so that they can seek funding for the people they support.

Targeted funding from the Home Heating Support Fund will reflect each individual’s circumstances, with extra support available for households with one person over 75, living with disability or illness, or living in a remote or island community.

Payments can be for electricity, oil, gas, LPG, coal or other forms of heating, starting at £100 and rising to £1000 to clear outstanding debt – with funds paid directly to suppliers on behalf of the household.

Eligibility is based on households which are “self-rationing” their energy – meaning those deliberately limiting their energy use so they can afford to spend money on other goods or services. Individuals cannot apply directly to the fund.

Andrew Bartlett, chief executive of Advice Direct Scotland, said: “Since launching the scheme, more than 400 referral partners have registered and we’re receiving hundreds of applications on behalf of their clients who are struggling with energy bills.

“This demonstrates the scale of the cost-of-living crisis.

READ MORE: Scotland only part of UK to see 'significant' drop in food bank usage

“But we know there are more people out there who need support, so we encourage any charities, housing associations, or community organisations which provide energy or debt advice to register with us.

“This fund will prove absolutely crucial in ensuring that households who have been hit the hardest can continue to heat their homes and feed their families.”

Craig Nisbet, a community support officer at Thaw, told of the huge difference the fund has made to his customers: “Having access to this fund this year means I am making some wonderful phone calls where I’m getting to tell people ‘your child will be warm this winter’.

He added: “When we’re calling these people, you can feel their shoulders drop, you can feel their tension disappear. There’s so much else to worry about at the moment and this is one less weight on them.”

mojo7264 · 08/02/2022 13:30

twitter.com/BootstrapCook/status/1490741742806741003

Jack Monroe is a legend! This should go a long way in helping people
with their shopping, if they are strapped for cash, like many of us are.

wildchild554 · 10/02/2022 12:20

@Dutch1e we managed it because we had to not because we wanted to I have to wear that amount in winter anyway when I go out and when working the allotment to reduce the level of pain I get so can try and maintain quality of life but the top 2 bits are easy to get off as they zip and pull off and same with the onesie, unzip and pull down but I wear another layer underneath for going to the toilet. the same would work for most people with fleecy pyjamas underneath but as the arthritis is also in my spine I opt for a onesie to stop the draft hitting my back and flairing it up.

Dutch1e · 10/02/2022 13:00

@wildchild554, yes it certainly sounded like a have-to rather than choose-to situation, and my heart goes out to you. What a faff just to stay warm enough to minimise pain... bad enough outside let alone in your own home.

Heidi1976 · 10/02/2022 13:10

I fixed mine last September/October due to worry of the price cap, even then, my bill doubled a month doing just that. Luckily I'm fixed now for another 18 months so I'm praying that the costs will have dropped back down a bit by then as I wouldn't be able to afford any more.

wildchild554 · 10/02/2022 19:10

@Dutch1e It is a bit and not looking forward to the prospect of having to do it again but there's only so much I can cut back on we are already very frugal as it is but I'm not one to give up I just get on with it and make the best of it.

Akire · 11/02/2022 20:44

Had a letter about annual gas safety check from housing association. First time ever it says “please make sure there is enough credit on your gas and electric meters as the boiler will need to be turned on and ran for a few minutes” sign of the times.

worriedatthemoment · 13/02/2022 20:01

@Akire mine has always said this as they can't test it if there is no credit as it won't work

LizzieMacQueen · 16/02/2022 11:38

I have a moral dilemma if anyone is still reading.

My energy provider sends monthly invoices. Lately they have massively over estimated my usage so I send in readings - I am really against smart meters - they had the cheek to ask if I'd maybe mis read one of my readings so they sent a meter reader person round. Ok. So jan's bill was based on their reading plus mine from December = very accurate use for Jan.

so now feb bill is in and the have used Jan's figures PLUS 27% on top!! They obviously don't believe my very small readings. But, do I correct or do I just pay because these units will be at the old tariff?

I do think sod them, they mis trust me. But what do you guys think? Morally wrong?

sjj257 · 16/02/2022 11:54

I am really worried, both me and DH work full time. We already struggle at the end of the month. We are on a prepayment meter, it was in when we moved in, should we be asking to change to monthly DDs? They scare me because I’m not sure about the different tariffs

FourTeaFallOut · 16/02/2022 12:28

@LizzieMacQueen

I have a moral dilemma if anyone is still reading.

My energy provider sends monthly invoices. Lately they have massively over estimated my usage so I send in readings - I am really against smart meters - they had the cheek to ask if I'd maybe mis read one of my readings so they sent a meter reader person round. Ok. So jan's bill was based on their reading plus mine from December = very accurate use for Jan.

so now feb bill is in and the have used Jan's figures PLUS 27% on top!! They obviously don't believe my very small readings. But, do I correct or do I just pay because these units will be at the old tariff?

I do think sod them, they mis trust me. But what do you guys think? Morally wrong?

I wouldn't go out of my way to tell them that their estimate was wrong. I don't think that's unethical.
wildchild554 · 16/02/2022 12:35

@LizzieMacQueen Contact them if they've charged you more than they should and get them to sort it, no reason you should be out of pocket. I get this problem too, on prepayment and usually pre covid average 3-4 meter reading people a year as I think they think I am fiddling it, annoys the hell out of me tbh as my sons autistic and having a stranger in unannounced sets him off.

FourTeaFallOut · 16/02/2022 12:40

That's the point, in the medium term she won't be out of pocket. With the overestimate/s she is building up units in advance of the April rates.

LizzieMacQueen · 16/02/2022 12:46

Thanks @wildchild554 and @FourTeaFallOut

Yes I feel like they are wrong to assume i have a high usage even though they sent someone recently to check! I think because this time last year my kids were all home ---- and i can afford to 'overpay' so I will benefit in the long term. I don't suppose they'll ask for meter readings on 31/3/22 from all their customers will they ?

On the radio just now (R4 you & yours) they've been discussing the surge testing concept : smart meters sending 30 minute readings : to capture, to their benefit though they dress this as a good service to the end user : def not getting a smart meter now.

Yes, great they'll say the best time to charge your car is between 1.30pm and 2.15 on a wednesday - but not if it's too windy as the wind turbines don't like that etc etc. and most folk are at work so cannot take advantage.

FourTeaFallOut · 16/02/2022 12:51

I don't suppose they'll ask for meter readings on 31/3/22 from all their customers will they ?

I doubt it.

Xenia · 16/02/2022 12:54

I remember the 1970s. We had about 20% inflation a year for 3 years i.e. 60% over three years. It was very very difficult. People were having to buy a TV just because in a year or two's time it would cost 20% more. Inflation is very difficult even if pay starts to rise.

Lightning020 · 17/02/2022 11:40

It reminds me of living in Istanbul in 1993-1994 when inflation was a mere 150 per cent! Obviously not as bad as then but it is not something I have forgotten.....

JuliaMumsnet · 18/02/2022 11:37

Hello! Just popping by to say that we're doing a Q&A with fuel poverty charity National Energy Action about these energy price rises on Wednesday at 12 noon. The thread is open for any questions you might have here.

Grantanow · 21/02/2022 15:47

Johnson doesn't care about ordinary people's cost of living. What he and his cronies have done so far does not come anywhere near what is needed. This Tory sheep is becoming a Labour goat next time. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Mydoghealsmyheart · 22/03/2022 16:44

My supplier has just emailed to inform me that my monthly direct debit is increasing by £160 and that I’m now in arrears by £780 due to be transferred from a supplier who folded!!! Our monthly bill will now be £280 and that’s without clearing the arrears! It’s scary.

Ca6444443 · 22/03/2022 17:30

What does happen if you really can’t pay it can they cut off your electricity if you have a child ? Or do they fit an expensive pre pay meter? I’ve had an email saying mines doubled and I can’t afford it.

springisaroundthecorner · 23/03/2022 20:45

I wonder how many will say they can't afford it but still go on holidays etc?

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