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to find septagenarian rock stars on DC's clothes odd?

168 replies

Tofindthisodd · 05/02/2022 09:55

I was looking for some new tops for DC online this morning, H&M and Next. I always find it so strange that there are numerous Rolling Stones, ACDC, Guns and Roses... tops for kids. They were all well past their prime when I was young, so why would my DC wear their merchandise.

Any music that they release now is dire and I don't want my DC's advertising for rich and powerful men. I hate random slogans on clothes anyway, but this seems worse.

AIBU?

OP posts:
MermaidEyes · 05/02/2022 17:15

steff13 it's interesting, I find with my friends, and my kids friends, those that have been brought up listening to varied and eclectic music also have similar tastes as they become adults. But those kids whose parents don't listen to music at all only seem to listen to current chart music. I don't know if anyone else thinks this too.

ComtesseDeSpair · 05/02/2022 17:23

[quote Awumminnscotland]@Tofindthisodd
Oh OP you’re getting such a hammering on here! And look! It’s had the desired effect to shut you up and make you think you’re completely out of order and unreasonable to have critical thinking skills and to actually voice them.
I completely agree with your opinions on this.
I’m 50 with a six year old daughter with autism and is socially vulnerable in other ways. I’ll admit my first thought was Ooh Blondie T-shirt , cool. But then I questioned the effect of a child, especially a female wearing this. For my child it would give people an easy way to identify with them and gain their trust.
This is not new, crazy or paranoid thinking. It’s realist thinking. My Dad was a social worker in the 60s to 80s and he was concerned when a male neighbour bought me a Duran Duran T-shirt. I thought it was an over reaction for years but now I totally get it.[/quote]
But surely you could have your child in a Disney tshirt and somebody predatory would find a way to use it to identify her by saying Micky Mouse was his favourite character as well and he’s been to Disneyland seven times, has she ever been to Disneyland, would she like to see his Disneyland photos or his Micky Mouse toy collection? And so on for any item of clothing featuring any cultural references or characters or pictures or something which could enablee a predator to say “wow, I love horses / cycling / swimming too, we have so much in common!”

tigger1001 · 05/02/2022 17:23

@MermaidEyes

steff13 it's interesting, I find with my friends, and my kids friends, those that have been brought up listening to varied and eclectic music also have similar tastes as they become adults. But those kids whose parents don't listen to music at all only seem to listen to current chart music. I don't know if anyone else thinks this too.
I have 2 children.

We listen to a lot of music in the house.

Eldest has very little interest and never has. Will listen to modern stuff. No interest in playing music either but very sporty - that's where his interest lies.

Youngest has had a real interest in music from a very young age. Has sang along to more than one of my favourite bands. He has a very similar taste in music to me. He also loves to play music and goes for piano lessons.

I don't really listen to the music that my own parents did but there are overlaps in our tastes.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/02/2022 17:24

Exactly @SleepingStandingUp! They don't do Go-Go's T-shirts! because they weren't v famous. But my point was that DS still knows he likes them. At 6he will ask me to turn off stuff he dislikes a d request specific songs or a genre of Alexa. If he was a massive Beatles fan (but my Dad wasn't and then I wasn't so...) I'd happily buy him a tshirt instead of a Trolls movie tshirt

Badyboo · 05/02/2022 17:28

The Ramones are way more kid friendly than Cardi B!

TheLoupGarou · 05/02/2022 17:42

My DS8 has a Wu Tang Clan t-shirt that he picked himself and loves.

As ODB said: 'Wu Tang is for the children'. DS has only heard the radio edits, I'd like to clarify - it makes him laugh when words are blurred out, as he knows it's bad language.

TheLoupGarou · 05/02/2022 17:48

Also, my kids definitely have their own likes and dislikes when it comes to music/clothes. I thought it was a bit strange to say kids have no choice over what they wear - babies and toddlers perhaps.

We listen to a wide variety of music at home and ds's both play instruments (guitar/drums) they hear a lot of classic rock that way.

WomanStanleyWoman · 05/02/2022 17:49

[quote Tofindthisodd]@SpinsForGin, I've explained in posts at 10.51 and 13.07 why I find it odd. You may not find it sufficient criteria for oddness, but there you go.

I don't feel triggered by band t-shirts, good one PP.

I have explained that I was in the music scene in the 90s and I have had traumatic experiences with men. So if I did feel 'triggered' by them, mocking me would would not be an appropriate response.[/quote]
You’ve said nothing of the sort. You do realise it’s very easy to view all the OP’s posts?

You’re trying to have a dig at me when, in reality, everything I’ve said in response to this ridiculously over the top nonsense is perfectly ‘appropriate’.

Jengnr · 05/02/2022 17:58

I’m 43 (so old enough for the grunge credentials apparently required) and my kids are 6 and 9. I like good music, and as a result of constant exposure so do they. They’re both in bands at a local music school and there’s a whole generation of kids into the same stuff.

Plus, most of these bands are still touring so pretty relevant.

Axl Rose is 59 - hardly a septegenarian.

Cam2020 · 05/02/2022 18:04

You don't see Joni Mitchell or Kate Bush tops in Next or H&M.

I've seen Blondie tops?

MrsAvocet · 05/02/2022 18:23

My 16 year old DS is currently sporting a Stevie Ray Vaughan shirt and yesterday's was a Van Halen 1980 tour t shirt. His wardrobe reflects his music collection which also includes GNR, Dire Straits, Eric Clapton and BB King as well as more modern rock and blues artists. He's pretty disparaging about most modern mainstream pop music actually and quite a lot of his friends are the same. Yes, some of it has come from listening to my old CDs and his Dad's, but not all. He developed his own tastes years ago and in fact quite a lot of the music I now listen to is stuff he has introduced me to rather than vice versa - and very little of it was recorded this century.
My other son's playlist is mainly classical, interspersed with Greenday and some hideous experimental jazz stuff which is most certainly nothing to do with me! But none of it is "his era".
Lots of people like music, fashion etc from different eras. There's nothing wrong with that.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 05/02/2022 18:32

‘So you don't listen to music around your kids?’

Of course I do, just as my parents listened to music around me but as much as I danced and liked ‘their’ music, I had posters on my wall and talked with friends about music which was out during my time. So although I liked Motown etc and danced with my parents to it, I had New Kids on the Block posters on my wall and I talked about NKOTB with my friends. They didn’t get NKOTB at all even though I used to do ‘The Right Stuff’ dance in front of them all the time.

BBC6 music is on constantly in our house and we play Nirvana and Janes Addiction in the car. She likes it all but wouldn’t actively ask to wear their t-shirts and demands to know who I like better out of BTS and Black Pink. If she were to wear a Nirvana t-shirt, it would be because I bought it for her, not because she asked for it.

Tearsforpears · 05/02/2022 18:58

I always assume that the parents are a bit dull and trying to look edgy when they dress an 18 month old in a ramones T shirt. Like the 1972 Bella Freud sweatshirts, all following a look and thinking that they are different.
I would be more impressed with the toddler wearing a Chesney Hawkes one than a Bob Marley.

It makes me think of bifold doors, fake panelling and designer cross breed dogs. That type 🤣

TheOriginalEmu · 05/02/2022 19:01

@Tofindthisodd

No, my DC aren't wearing them, but children don't get a choice in what they wear. Personally, I think it odd and kind of both covertly and aggressively patriarchal that you can get rich powerful man merchandise for your toddler.

You don't see Joni Mitchell or Kate Bush tops in Next or H&M.

My kids had Blondie and Joan Jett T-shirts as little kids. Mine wore T-shirts from all kinds of bands. Mostly my old ones rather then new ones, but I don’t see why it matters. It’s my style of clothing so I liked it on my children
Tearsforpears · 05/02/2022 19:01

Classic nappy valley ‘oh look how different and superior we are’, except you are no different to the parent who dresses their toddler in Disney that you love to sneer at.

StrychnineIntheSandwiches · 05/02/2022 19:03

People love to over-analyse! Maybe their kid wears a Disney t-shirt and a Ramones t-shirt.

TheOriginalEmu · 05/02/2022 19:09

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

For me it’s not the sexism angle at all. It’s more to do with parents trying to score cool points by pretending their kids love the Ramones. We know 5 year olds don’t love the Ramones no matter how much people try and claim as much.

I’d believe it more if the kids wore a BTS t-shirt but then the parents don’t win cool points. So try hard and transparent with it.

Why can’t 5 year olds like the ramones? If that’s the music they listen to then they will probably like it. I also don’t think putting a tshirt on your child because you like the imagery of it means you are pretending your child likes the ramones.
MorganKitten · 05/02/2022 19:19

@Tofindthisodd

No, my DC aren't wearing them, but children don't get a choice in what they wear. Personally, I think it odd and kind of both covertly and aggressively patriarchal that you can get rich powerful man merchandise for your toddler.

You don't see Joni Mitchell or Kate Bush tops in Next or H&M.

Because JM and KB haven’t sold the licensing to them, but if you know where look you can get them.
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