Part 6 A thread for the continued enjoyment of Boris' downfall, enjoyment being important

[jgw1]

What the title says.

This will be the one where he resigns, so if please keep the whatabout to a minimum.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall during that discussion between Sadiq Kahn and Priti Patel. Any discussion, actually.

Dame Dick is like Maggie Thatcher in the fact that her being female has done nothing positive for the cause of women

cf also:
Liz Truss
Priti Patel
Nadine Dorries
Suella Braverman
...

I totally agree that Dick had to go. Should have gone years ago, after the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.

It would just be really, really good if leaving your job due to incompetence could become as commonplace as stupidity, mendacity and hypocrisy currently are amongst those in power...

Good riddance. Women like her in high profile powerful positions do feminism more harm than good.

It would just be really, really good if leaving your job due to incompetence could become as commonplace as stupidity, mendacity and hypocrisy currently are amongst those in power...

Can't argue with that!

@Blossomtoes

Good riddance. Women like her in high profile powerful positions do feminism more harm than good.

Amen!

You make 200 paramilitary murders sound almost like a good thing

It’s a much smaller number than 3500, and that is surely a good rather than a bad thing.

"I totally agree that Dick had to go. Should have gone years ago, after the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes."

I'll never understand why she wasn't found to be culpable as Commander.

I presume Johnson via Patel will be able to select his ideal investigator.

@borntobequiet

You make 200 paramilitary murders sound almost like a good thing

It’s a much smaller number than 3500, and that is surely a good rather than a bad thing.

Aren't bigger numbers better?

Like for example Boris is disliked by nearly double the proportion of the population as Sir John.

Aren't bigger numbers better?

Of course, silly me. High fuel bills, high covid infection rates, lots and lots of parties and lies, the government is surpassing itself.

@borntobequiet

Aren't bigger numbers better?

Of course, silly me. High fuel bills, high covid infection rates, lots and lots of parties and lies, the government is surpassing itself.

That's the ticket.

More wives, messier hair, more £50 notes burnt in front of sheep, that kind of thing.

@UnconditionalSurrender

Sadly it doesn't really matter that the UK delegation to Russia are unprepared and useless, because Johnson and co have degraded us to a 3rd tier status country, at best. No-one cares what we have to say even if they had anyone capable of saying it.

Even if they were brilliant, they've got a horrendous task simply because the Russians have to be asking why they should ever rely on a Tory promise or believe a word they say given the examples of their leader

Well, Major says that Johnson "broke lockdown laws" - as if the entire nation is not already aware of that. Poor old John Major was never the brightest in the pack - he only managed 3 O-levels and never even started on an A-level at his Grammar School.

He was doing O levels at a time of major family crisis. When you look at his reputation as PM and his current very successful career, compared with Johnson's firmly established position as worst PM ever, it doesn't exactly suggest an Oxford degree is a guarantee of anything.

No but it needs to be a party. A party. 3 people and a laptop isn't a party. A few people in an office at work isn't a party.

@JaniieJones, could you point to which part of the relevant legislation said that a gathering not reasonably required for work purposes was only unlawful if it was a party?

@Peregrina

I always thought the Good Friday agreement, of which he was the architect, was quite a large scale and fruitful achievement.

Yes, but let's face it - most English people don't give a shit about NI.

We actually did at the time, not least because we didn't want people being killed and injured both in Northern Ireland and in the rest of the UK.

@Notonthestairs

It's not up to me????? I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked.

Major won 14 million votes in 1992 so somebody liked him at one point.

But as we all know - what comes up must come down.

And the Conservatives were at a very low ebb beforehand; it was pretty confidently expected that they would lose.

@DePfeffoff

No but it needs to be a party. A party. 3 people and a laptop isn't a party. A few people in an office at work isn't a party.

@JaniieJones, could you point to which part of the relevant legislation said that a gathering not reasonably required for work purposes was only unlawful if it was a party?

You are missing the important point that for Big Baby to do any work alcohol has to be involved and frequent morale boosting quizzes.

What I want to know given the perpetual crisis 10 Clowning Street has been in since December how many quizzes have they had to have?

Ministers being sent to defend the indefensible and looking gullible or foolish....

It’s hilarious watching the front bench sidekicks squirm at PMQs as BJ belligerently digs himself deeper.

Dominic Raab these days looks awkward and uncomfortable, jeering the opposition while bracing himself for the next round of lies he knows he’ll be forced to defend.

Despicable bunch 🤬

You make 200 paramilitary murders sound almost like a good thing

Reminds me of the way Johnson keeps claiming "credit" for bringing about a situation where we currently have 2000 a week dying with Covid.

I'm not sorry Dick has gone, but I think Sadiq Khan is being highly optimistic in thinking that a new Commissioner will be able to lead the changes required for the Met. Not even a miracle worker can achieve much without adequate funding of both policing and the justice system.

Guto Harri having a mare this week
twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1491911952247005186?t=qGbcSpwyD2NOm03FXNCDzg&s=19

You love to see it

Not even a miracle worker can achieve much without adequate funding of both policing and the justice system.

100% this. Another thing important to consider (but sadly too often ignored) is with London being the epicentre of the public health housing and homelessness emergency, this has an impact on its policing (and other essential services).

Increasingly Met police are being priced out of London. Many face long journeys to and from work. Particularly unappealing with a job like policing with night and shift work. More and more will transfer out to a force in a more affordable housing area. Just as friends of mine in the NHS have done.

That is a big reason why the Met Police will struggle to recruit and retain quality officers.

@ClaudineClare

Will it have any repercussions for the Partygate investigations?

This was raised on Radio 4 last night, but it was said that Cressida Dick has not been involved in the Partygate investigations, which are apparently being handled by a special unit set up years ago to handle allegations involving politicians.

I couldn't help thinking that people such as Harvey Proctor might have views on the work of that unit, as would relatives of the late Field Marshall Bramall and the late Lord Leon Brittain.

@DePfeffoff

I'm not sorry Dick has gone, but I think Sadiq Khan is being highly optimistic in thinking that a new Commissioner will be able to lead the changes required for the Met. Not even a miracle worker can achieve much without adequate funding of both policing and the justice system.

Agree.

Same with education.

They cut funding to that and then used the fall out of the standards schools could meet to force them into academies.

Puzzledandpissedoff:
isn't it Priti Patel's job to sack her if it comes to that?

Only the Home Secretary can appoint or fire a Commissioner, but the Mayor apparently informed Cressida Dick that she no longer has the confidence of the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime - the body responsible for oversight of the Metropolitan Police - leaving her with no alternative but to resign.

It's an odd situation that the Met Commissioner serves two masters - the Home Secretary for the Met's nationwide role in fields such as fighting terrorism, protecting politicians, ambassadors and the royal family etc, and the Mayor for its role in policing London.

@DePfeffoff

I'm not sorry Dick has gone, but I think Sadiq Khan is being highly optimistic in thinking that a new Commissioner will be able to lead the changes required for the Met. Not even a miracle worker can achieve much without adequate funding of both policing and the justice system.

Don't London Council Tax payers fund the police through the Greater London Authority charge on their Council Tax bills? I may be wrong, but I thought the government only funds the Met's nationwide role in things such as anti-terrorism. know a friend of mine is always complaining that the GLA precept is an extra £600 a year on top of well over £2000 Council Tax for a small terraced house (but I think it goes on TfL as well as the Met).