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Part 6 A thread for the continued enjoyment of Boris' downfall, enjoyment being important

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jgw1 · 04/02/2022 14:09

What the title says.

This will be the one where he resigns, so if please keep the whatabout to a minimum.

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Peregrina · 05/02/2022 22:44

Johnson may be thinking “When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions”

Or perhaps not, because it's everyone else who is out of step except him.

Zonder · 05/02/2022 22:46

I'm sure he would have some blustering response.

Blossomtoes · 05/02/2022 22:52

@Peregrina

What do we make of this ?

It looks like a cash for access gift has gone wrong.

Ooops.
OhYouBadBadKitten · 05/02/2022 22:58

@Peregrina

What do we make of this ?

It looks like a cash for access gift has gone wrong.

That's very interesting. People are starting to understand the Emperor is naked.
longwayoff · 05/02/2022 23:13

A complaint about a bribe not paying off ? Hmm.

jgw1 · 05/02/2022 23:27

@longwayoff

A complaint about a bribe not paying off ? Hmm.
Look at Jeremy Corbyn and the unions.
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longwayoff · 05/02/2022 23:34

What have we come to in this country? 'I handed over a bundle of dosh to a political party but I didn't get the rewards I'd paid for. And I believe that's a perfectly reasonable complaint.' Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey, please send for Ted Hastings.

DePfeffoff · 05/02/2022 23:34

@Peregrina

What do we make of this ?

It looks like a cash for access gift has gone wrong.

Complaining because.he didn't get to have breakfast with Johnson? to be honest, if I'd won that prize I'd have assumed it was the booby prize.
Blossomtoes · 06/02/2022 00:05

He paid good money for it in an auction. More money than sense.

thecatfromjapan · 06/02/2022 01:05

Politics is expensive. It's no surprise that Parties rely on donations - be it from members, unions, businesses or individuals. And it's no surprise that people will want something in return for that donation.

Notoriously, the Leave campaign groups outspent the Remain campaigns by significant - still not fully disclosed - amounts. And the Conservatives always raise, and spend, significantly more than other Parties.

Perhaps, one day, we'll have a ceiling on donations, rigorously enforced. With full transparency.

Until then, all you can do is be mindful of where the money is coming from, the huge differentials in donations, and think about what that money buys.

If o were less lazy, I'd find a link to the campaign spends and listed donations of the main Parties - they do exist in partial form. The difference in amounts is sobering.

And, yes, there's a fine line between raising donations with raffle prizes like breakfast with Johnson, or a magic trick with the minister for defence and actual cash for access.

It's murky. And depressing.

I'm astonished at the sums involved here. No wonder the Conservatives keep winning elections. 🤷‍♀️

thecatfromjapan · 06/02/2022 01:14

I'm absolutely amazed by how much that chap splashed out, by the way. I don't think either the Liberals or Labour could raise that much. And most of it seems to have been at one event, too. 🤷‍♀️ I think the other Parties can only dream of raising those sums.

And it has a massive effect. It buys leaflets and advertising and digital campaigns; full-time workers and the costs of running buildings; up-dated infrastructure and experts to run it ... at local and national level.

countrygirl99 · 06/02/2022 04:50

A donation like that would pay the entire costs of our RDA centre for over 3 years😩

itsgettingweird · 06/02/2022 06:30

It says something when donations come from getting to eat with an MP or have a magic show!

More money than sense these people. I like Penny Mourdant as an MP but not enough to care about her card trick ability!

borntobequiet · 06/02/2022 07:28

a magic trick with the minister for defence

I mean that’s bonkers, isn’t it? It belongs in a satirical novel, which is apparently where we’re all living right now.

ENoeuf · 06/02/2022 08:10

Absolutely shocking you can pay to be in a ‘leaders club’ and get access to ministers. It’s disgraceful. And to be allowed to even lobby for yourself to be short listed. The whole system stinks.

thecatfromjapan · 06/02/2022 08:16

Yes. The fact that donors seemed to be offered public jobs is also shocking. Properly shocking.

That's an erasure of public service norms, right there.

Not just access - a short-cut to paid roles.

That's well beyond what we used to consider 'normal'.

But ... PPE scandal. Contracts to cronies.

I would urge everyone to remind themselves that this is not normal. Hasn't been for a long time now. But resist the erasure and the pushing of your boundaries as to what you expect from politics.

ENoeuf · 06/02/2022 08:28

I think if pmqs was broadcast later more people would see how appalling some ministers are. Johnson wagging his head to Blackford, Mogg treating it like some kind of joke etc.

Zonder · 06/02/2022 08:30

Yes @ENoeuf I've often thought it should be at 6pm so people could see it on the news or something.

longwayoff · 06/02/2022 09:56

Kwasi Kwarteng struggling on Sophie Raworth programme. 'Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive'.

ClaudineClare · 06/02/2022 09:59

@Peregrina

What do we make of this ?

It looks like a cash for access gift has gone wrong.

What a depressing read. The grubbiness of it all. The egos of the politicians involved. All that money just to see Mordaunt do magic tricks. Public roles for sale.

In another time, that article would put the PM in a difficult position. Now it is just another day, another puddle of sleaze.

On another note, the appointment of Steve Barclay to Chief of Staff shows once and for all that the Chief of Staff and spads in general are not part of the civil service and that civil servants are not answerable to spads. Certain Posters spent hours and days on here trying to say otherwise. I doubt they will admit their error though.

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2022 10:02

Same earler on Sky News

#Phillips - In France energy prices have risen by 4% & it's 54% in the UK... what have the French got that we don't have, except maybe a better government?

Kwasi Kwarteng - They have scared a lot of investors in France...we're securing jobs....

Confused
MidCenturyClegs · 06/02/2022 10:03

@BringBackCoffeeCreams

He won't resign. Ever. He's too arrogant and believes absolutely that it is his god given birthright to rule over us. So he'll only go when he's thrown out. And not even then if he thinks he can get away with it.
Remind you of any other white overgrown haired comb-over political narcissist? (The one with the orange face)
ClaudineClare · 06/02/2022 10:09

What sort of answer is that? What does it even mean DuncinToffee?

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2022 10:25

ClaudineClare

There is more..

#SundayMorning: Why did the PM say the govt has cut crime by 14%, when he didn't include fraud & computer misuse... that means total crime increased by 14%... what he said wasn't true
Kwasi Kwarteng: What people experience in their daily lives in terms of fraud, not fraud...

twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1490266046179295236?s=21

cakeorwine · 06/02/2022 10:31

Crime is down - if you look at certain crime. But if you include all crime, it's up.

Did Kwarteng hear himself?