Maths Disagreement

[TulaOfDarkWater]

One person thinks the answer is 165 and the other thinks 67, who is right?

YABU - 165
YANBU - 67

Or what’s the answer if both are wrong?

I hate these things, who can make others look stupid, but the maths question is about crap anyway
...38 by the way 😉

38

For all those saying there is no bracket. That is irrelevant. The bracket is implied under the rules of BODMAS. The correct answer is 67

Even entering the sum in a calculator without brackets will tell you 67 is correct answer

Neither is correct.

The clock is showing 3 so it's 3.
There are only 3 bananas so that's also 3
And the shapes are missing the four sided shape so that 11.

3+3+(3x11)=39

Oops. Sorry clock is 2 so it's 38.

@Heytheredemons

What numbers are you entering? Because it isnt 67.

It's 35 if each shape is worth 5.
It's 38 if counting number of sides of each shape.

ah - right so yes - I see it's 38 now - not 35!

@ClumpingBambooIsALie

It's one of those Facebook things where you've got to look closely at things like the exact number of bananas in the bunch. It's counting on you assuming they're the same symbol because you've been conditioned by years of school maths problems. Irritating.

Exactly. If they're a different symbol how could I possibly guess what it means? I understand the bananas one (4 bananas = 8, 3 bananas = 6) but the pentagon one? Why should it mean anything given that its not been used in the previous problem

@hugr

Each banana is worth 1. So, 4 bananas would be 4, not 8.

All 3 shapes together is 15. There are 15 sides when all 3 shapes are together. The last line with the hexagon and Pentagon have 11 sides, so it is worth 11.
Or,
Each shape could be worth 5 so the last symbol could be worth 10.

There isnt enough information to tell you if it is number of sides or number of shapes. They should have removed the square in the second line, and given the answer which would let you work out if it is number of sides or number of shapes.

I get 35 if you assume each banana is 1, the clock time gives the value (3 or 2) and each layer on the pentagon = 15

So 2+3+3×10 = 35

@Viviennemary

All the shapes change if you look carefully even the bananas. Is this a trick question. I got told in maths if there are no brackets you just do the sum from start to finish. Has this changed now. Wouldn't surprise me.

It hasn't changed, you are likely misremembering (or less likely you were badly taught). Sorry. Always BODMAS, (though not always called that.)

Definitely 38
Each banana worth 1
Clock worth 2
Shapes worth 11
So 2+3+3x11
Use BIDMAS (or BODMAS)
3x11=33
33+2+3=38
Brackets aren't necessary, just follow the order of operations

It's a crap puzzle tbh

@Ausik

There's no bracket though

Doesn't need a bracket, the x always takes precedence over +.

Row 1, each shape has 15 sides, so 1 side is worth 1, 45/(3x15)
Row 2, 2x4 bananas + 15 sided shape =23, so 1 banana = 1
Row 3, 4 bananas + 2 clocks at 3 = 10, so 1 hour =1
Row 4, clock at 2 + 3 bananas + 3 bananas x 11 sided shape

2 + 3 + 3x11 = 38 (5 + 33)

Seems incredibly convoluted though!

It's THIRTY EIGHT

26

The answer they want is 38.

It's actually not answerable though, as the pictures are different and there's nothing to confirm that a line on a shape or a banana equates to one, or that a hand pointing to a particular number on a clock equates to that number. It's all assumptions.

@Looneytune253

It's THIRTY EIGHT

There isnt enough information to tell you that.

It could be 38 or 35. Both can be correct because they dont give enough information.

The shapes could be worth 5 each or it could be number of sides. The second line of the puzzle should have changed the shape, that would have told us if the square was worth 5 or 4. But they didnt, so both could be possible.

@Viviennemary

All the shapes change if you look carefully even the bananas. Is this a trick question. I got told in maths if there are no brackets you just do the sum from start to finish. Has this changed now. Wouldn't surprise me.

When did you last do maths?

@Viviennemary

Maths hasnt changed. Order of operations has been the same for forever. You're remembering it wrongly/weren't taught properly/were just really bad at maths.

[quote Itsalmostanaccessory]@hugr

Each banana is worth 1. So, 4 bananas would be 4, not 8.

All 3 shapes together is 15. There are 15 sides when all 3 shapes are together. The last line with the hexagon and Pentagon have 11 sides, so it is worth 11.
Or,
Each shape could be worth 5 so the last symbol could be worth 10.

There isnt enough information to tell you if it is number of sides or number of shapes. They should have removed the square in the second line, and given the answer which would let you work out if it is number of sides or number of shapes.[/quote]
Yeah that's what I'm saying. You can't use a new symbol without qualifying its meaning

67. Bodmas means 4 x 15 gets done first, then the two additions

2 + 3 + 3 x 11

The answer is either 88 or 38 depending on whether bodmas is applied.

Oh jeez, to be honest neither of us noticed that the shapes / bananas / time changed so obviously we are both wrong then!

IF all the symbols were exactly the same throughout though, so:

Grey thingy = 15
Bananas = 4
Clock = 3

What would the answer be then? What we’re really disagreeing on is where the brackets go I guess so is it:

(3 + 4 + 4) x 15

or

3 + 4 + (4 x 15)

@Viviennemary

All the shapes change if you look carefully even the bananas. Is this a trick question. I got told in maths if there are no brackets you just do the sum from start to finish. Has this changed now. Wouldn't surprise me.

Someone told you wrong then and it's been that way for centuries!

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