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AIBU?

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To want some help buying things for our baby?

123 replies

FedUpOfLighteningCrotch · 03/02/2022 19:34

To cut a long story short; we’ve always kept our finances separate; I pay my own bills, DP pays his own bills. Since having our first child we decided I would pay nursery fee’s, food shopping and my own bills, he pays our mortgage, utility bills and his own.
He earns £700 more than me a month.

Christmas last year was just be buying everything for DS and it was hard financially with his birthday a couple days later.

This year I said I wanted to start budgeting for Christmas early; he said not to worry about it and he would help this year if he could; month by month went buy, I started buying things, he didn’t. So again I did it by myself in my last two pays before Christmas which again was hard and left me short, but he had things to pay for so I can’t complain.

Now we’re moving house, we’ve decided to have a joint bank account once this mortgage is paid and the new one taken out. So the idea is both our wages go into one account, all bills get taken from said account, we then split the rest over savings and give ourselves an ‘allowance’ of disposable money, him for hobbies, me so I can entertain the kids, arrange days out ect.

But as this hasn’t happened yet, and I’m 8 months pregnant; I’ve been paying the nursery bills, my bills, I’ve always brought DS’s clothes, shoes ect with the child benefit, which I’ll likely do the same once DD is here.

But so far DP hasn’t paid for or even offered to pay for anything for DD, he knows that my money is gone on bills and necessities by the second week into every month. He knows I’m struggling - the beauty of getting the new house is we’ve made a fair bit of profit on this house so we’re going to pay off all of our outstanding debts so we have more disposable income.

I’ve mentioned that now we’re only a few weeks off baby coming we need to get the necessities, crib, pushchair, car seat ect.

I’ve just brought the pushchair as it was discounted by £400, was only £139 and can be used for DS too. When I mentioned to DP that if I brought the pram it would completely wipe me out for the rest of the month he didn’t bat an eyelid. I’ve obviously mentioned that we still need a car seat and other basic necessities, decent breast pump ect. He just says “yeah well you can do that next month then can’t you?” But I can’t really, I’m on maternity now. This will be my last 90% pay and then I’ll be on £600 odd a month to cover bills and do the food shop still until we start combining our wages.

I guess I can’t really moan, I’m lucky I have disposable income - but babies are expensive and it’s our baby, I just felt like he should chip in a little bit.

I don’t really know what my AIBU is, maybe AIBU to just want help from the father of the children in buying their basic items? Or just the fact that by him buying maybe a packet of vests or a blanket, contributing in any way would make me feel less like I’m doing it all alone?

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TheApexOfMyLife · 03/02/2022 20:18

This man just isn’t willing to pay anything for his dcs.

He isn’t interested if they dint have anything as basic as clothes, a pram or a car seat. Because he knows very well you’ll manage something so they don’t go wo.

Do a budget and show him how m uh it actually cost for nursery, pushchair etc…
Put in writing how you actually earn - aka the £600 per month.

And ask him to do the same. How much does he get paid, how much is he spending.

No point going on about ‘im paying for the house’ if he spends £600 on the mortgage and you spend £900 on nursery fees alone.

You’ll have to force his hand re the joint account too. Make an appointment to modify an existing account or open a joint account online (with him!). But he HAS TO step up there.
(And he won’t want to because he knows very well how well off he comes out of the deal I suspect)

HermioneGrangersHair · 03/02/2022 20:20

Op - I am glad you posted - please listen to what’s being said above.

It’s not about him giving you a ‘contribution’ - it’s about him not thinking even for one minute that he has to make any constriction to his children, even CHRISTMAS PRESENTS ffs ( I am getting cross now on your behalf!)

This is an arrangement which is just WRONG. it’s one of the saddest things I have read on here actually - please talk to a friend, a family member and tell them what you have said here, I think they will say the same and hopefully be able to support you.

Then - please talk to someone like women’s aid, I’m not necessity saying LTB but I think you need someone to just convince you how poorly this man is treating you and explain to you what should be happening in a balanced relationship of equals who are parents.

Once you have the facts and the words to say to him, and the backing of someone else to support you, then you can act. In what ever way you want.

ShirleyPhallus · 03/02/2022 20:23

There is just so much wrong with this set up! Shock

Pawprintpaper · 03/02/2022 20:23

I imagine this has happened gradually OP? With each child there is additional expense plus often a hit on income, unfortunately he may be ignorant of this reality and thinks things can carry on as always or massively misjudged the costs of kids relative to your income. I would broach it as a budget conversation, especially in light of the rising cost of living. Make a list of monthly in and outgoings plus a costed list of one off purchases for the baby. Go through it with him. Maybe seeing the figures will bring it home. If he refuses then you really need to give serious thought to your future with this man.

HogDogKetchup · 03/02/2022 20:24

He sounds like a twat. But I’m also wondering why you’re buying everything again second time around?

T00Ts · 03/02/2022 20:25

I just wanted to know I’m not being unreasonable before I bring it up as he has a really good way of making me feel like I am!

That’s because he’s a shit father and manipulative twat, to boot.

YeOldePotato · 03/02/2022 20:26

This year I said I wanted to start budgeting for Christmas early; he said not to worry about it and he would help this year if he could

It's not help. This is his child. What is he doing with this money? Do you live in a huuuuge house with a massive mortgage?

BIWI · 03/02/2022 20:27

FFS. Stop being such a wet lettuce!

Why are you letting him get away with this? What is actually wrong with you?

TheWeeDonkey · 03/02/2022 20:31

Assuming these are his children? Why are you having children with a man who doesn't want to be a father and treats you like the lodger?

Therealjudgejudy · 03/02/2022 20:32

For goodness sake!

Why have another child with a man who refused to contribute to the first one? Fool me once an all that....

Lolliepoppie · 03/02/2022 20:33

I said YANBU but what are the amounts involved, how much is each of you left with after paying your “share”?

Merryoldgoat · 03/02/2022 20:36

Seriously - how do men learn to do this? Every day is more depressing than the last.

Helenluvsrob · 03/02/2022 20:39

Apart from all the above out of the remainder “ he gets money for hobbies and I get money to take the kids out for they day “

WTAF

didldidi · 03/02/2022 20:39

@HogDogKetchup

He sounds like a twat. But I’m also wondering why you’re buying everything again second time around?
Yes I was wondering this too.
Heronwatcher · 03/02/2022 20:41

I am genuinely aghast! How come he gets money for hobbies, when you pay for the kids? What are you getting for your hobbies? I think that the child benefit should go into the account, but then all kid expenses should come out of the joint account in the same way as mortgage/ electricity bills, then you split the rest equally. Seriously OP you need to get this sorted now, even if it takes a massive row. This is not fine!
Also goes without saying snake sure your name is on the deeds of the new house, and do not ever give your job up and become financially dependent on this man! I’d also be very careful with birth control until you’ve got the finances arranged fairly.

GrandDuchessRomanov · 03/02/2022 20:42

@Merryoldgoat because stupid or desperate women enable it.

I agree it is so so depressing.

Are we really living in 2022?

cptartapp · 03/02/2022 20:42

You've picked a stinker here OP.
You pay proportionate to your income (% wise) into a joint account for all bills by direct debit, and the emailer of your monies is for each of you to spend or save as you wish. If he declines, the relationship is over and he can start figuring out how to manage sole 24/7 care of his two young DC every week.
Get it together.

Dixiechickonhols · 03/02/2022 20:46

You need sensible conversation re money OP. Are you joint owner of the house? You aren’t married are you clued up re your legal position - CAB has a good guide.
A phrase I’ve seen on here is men pay for assets, women pay for donkey work (childrens stuff, childcare etc) Potentially leaving you in a mess if he dies or leaves.
He obviously views you as a single mum and the children as your responsibility. If you split he’d be worse off as he’d need to pay child maintenance and for things for them when he had contact.

Merryoldgoat · 03/02/2022 20:47

What do we do? How do we teach girls to value themselves and men to value us?

No one cares about this shit - it just gets worse and worse.

There were at least 4 women in the news over the last two days murdered by partners or ex partners. After years of abuse and control.

It makes me so angry.

Fluenty · 03/02/2022 20:51

I NEVER understand how women get themselves in this situation

Christmas gifts and baby items weren’t in your list. So why are you covering them?
Why is your allowance to entertain his kids
Whilst his allowance is to entertain himself?

Every time you make a decision about finances going forward, ask him if he would be happy if the roles were reversed.

Truly cannot understand how you thought this was ok and how he could be so selfish to you and his children

Cantleave · 03/02/2022 20:55

@YeOldePotato

send him links to things he can order off Amazon in a matter of seconds so he can contribute. so OP has to do all the researching and brain work?
Probably much better that the op does do the researching and brain work, as if not her dp will likely buy the cheapest items possible, instead of the better and safest ones!
Abigail12345654321 · 03/02/2022 20:59

List all monthly income - his salary, your mat leave and child benefit - and deduct mortgage and direct debits and other committed bills. Take what is left. Each of you gets half and from that you must contribute equally to car fuel, food, child costs and other day to day expenses. Wgat you each have left is for you to spend or save.

How would this compare to now?

Folklore9074 · 03/02/2022 21:03

Why on earth did you agree to this arrangement?! His money goes on hobbies and yours on children?! Jeeze. He’s taking you for a ride here, you do know that right?

Folklore9074 · 03/02/2022 21:05

This is so ridiculous it must be fake

freecuthbert · 03/02/2022 21:07

What a financially abusive cunt. I'd actually say LTB for once.