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Megan Thee Stallion

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Ispini · 03/02/2022 16:58

OK I’m showing my age but I have just seen some videos of this ‘musician/singer’, I’m completely stunned. How on earth are our kids supposed to have standards when this crap is being peddled as music.

In the olden days Madonna was a rebel, I feel so sorry for our girls as they see these ‘role models’ daily! Dreadful!

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ElectraBlue · 03/02/2022 21:54

She is talented and quite funny and seems a strong woman but yes I think her videos are often tasteless.

The problem is the music industry is pushing that kind of stuff and it brings her money and attention.

It just reinforce the idea that women's main value is their body.

I know she sells it as female empowerment and often makes fun of men in her videos but it still looks a bit too much like male record companies bosses' idea of fun...

bbgxd · 03/02/2022 21:56

@VladmirsPoutine

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded. My African mother is not dancing to WAP. She's got a lot more to say about it than l white middle class women, I'm telling you that.

OhWhyNot · 03/02/2022 22:02

foxgoosefinch

If a women enjoys baring her body out of her choice and is making money, writing her own music, choosing her own style, perusing the career she wants and is creative why isn’t it feminist

Music and dance are very sexual at times should this be ignored and hidden away

I remember the outcry about WAP on here and before that Anaconda

VladmirsPoutine · 03/02/2022 22:05

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded.

It's not a 'black' vs 'white' issue. It's a specific form of misogynoir white women are exceptionally skilled at perpetuating. If I had a penny for every time I'd witnessed it IRL and/or online I could probably pay the country's energy bills till 3033. Just look at how this thread has gone. Even the OP states that Madonna was merely a rebel but apparently Megan is ruining the children. That's right Megan is abusing the innocence of children - what an evil black woman. It's always the same schtick and no the 'My mother's best friend's neighbours dentist once walked passed a black man' defence isn't going to cut it. I'm half white - I don't care; white women are the issue.

changewwible · 03/02/2022 22:07

@VladmirsPoutine

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded.

It's not a 'black' vs 'white' issue. It's a specific form of misogynoir white women are exceptionally skilled at perpetuating. If I had a penny for every time I'd witnessed it IRL and/or online I could probably pay the country's energy bills till 3033. Just look at how this thread has gone. Even the OP states that Madonna was merely a rebel but apparently Megan is ruining the children. That's right Megan is abusing the innocence of children - what an evil black woman. It's always the same schtick and no the 'My mother's best friend's neighbours dentist once walked passed a black man' defence isn't going to cut it. I'm half white - I don't care; white women are the issue.

I agree with you.
CallMeNutribullet · 03/02/2022 22:08

Wait till you hear "You can do it" by Ice Cube

ChateauxNeufDePoop · 03/02/2022 22:14

[quote bbgxd]@VladmirsPoutine

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded. My African mother is not dancing to WAP. She's got a lot more to say about it than l white middle class women, I'm telling you that. [/quote]
What a massive sample size....

CallMeNutribullet · 03/02/2022 22:14

@SaySomethingMan

I must be listening to the wrong ( or tight rap music). I’ve listened to quite a bit of rap and connect remember a single one where they wrap About their penis. Maybe I didn’t understand m,
What rap music are you listening to?

Mama, move them hips, baby, shake them cheeks
I got dick for days, you got ass for weeks
Ice Cube

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 22:15

Have you seen Madonna lately? She’s no better at all.

CallMeNutribullet · 03/02/2022 22:16

@DolphinFC

Just to add to my last comment, this is how 14 year old girls think they should dress and act around teenage boys.
I don't remember walking about with cone bras on as a 14 year old in the 90s.
changewwible · 03/02/2022 22:17

I assume your African mother is not a modern young woman from Texas with the same cultural influences and background as MTS.

I don't think it's compulsory for all woman of African descent to like WAP.

changewwible · 03/02/2022 22:17

@PossiblyDreaming

Have you seen Madonna lately? She’s no better at all.

At least Megan's arse is real.

LuckyAmy1986 · 03/02/2022 22:22

At least Megan's arse is real

Yes. Madonna looks fucking ridiculous and embarrassing - Megan does not. No comparison.

SilverDoe · 03/02/2022 22:22

Really? Have you listened to thot shit? She's a great artist I really admire her. What "standards" do you feel are not being upheld by her? Conservativism and misogyny?

OhWhyNot · 03/02/2022 22:22

I don’t remember wanting to do a SEX book either

I guess Kate Bush Babooshka video is fine as she is so creative

ohfook · 03/02/2022 22:26

MTS is an incredibly talented rapper. Her music isn't to my taste but she's not the first person to sing provocative songs.
The vapours can sing about wanking, stevie nicks can sing edge of 17, peaches can start a song with the line 'sucking on my titties' and Trent Reznor can talk about fucking like an animal all without a tenth of the criticism that MTS and Cardi B got for wap.

I actually think it's worth comparing the general reception that 'fuck the pain away' got when compared to 'WAP' to see the problem black women encounter every day. One is controversial and boundary pushing and the other is overtly sexual and tacky. I can't think why!

foxgoosefinch · 03/02/2022 22:29

@VladmirsPoutine

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded.

It's not a 'black' vs 'white' issue. It's a specific form of misogynoir white women are exceptionally skilled at perpetuating. If I had a penny for every time I'd witnessed it IRL and/or online I could probably pay the country's energy bills till 3033. Just look at how this thread has gone. Even the OP states that Madonna was merely a rebel but apparently Megan is ruining the children. That's right Megan is abusing the innocence of children - what an evil black woman. It's always the same schtick and no the 'My mother's best friend's neighbours dentist once walked passed a black man' defence isn't going to cut it. I'm half white - I don't care; white women are the issue.

Literally nobody said any of this, so you are fulminating hyperbolically over your own invention here.

But you do you, claiming that the racism and sexism of the music industry, and society in general, is because “white women are the issue”. Yeah right, the music industry is notoriously run by those predatory white women, isn’t it?

This is blatantly just apologism for men, men’s misogyny and sexism, male domination, male violence and the whole history of white male power. We can always avoid confronting the real power if we shout “Karen!” and blame everything on another woman over there, no?

ohfook · 03/02/2022 22:31

Also she's under no obligation to be a role model. I'm pretty sure Keith richards was a pretty shitty role model in my dad's day, but he turned out fine!

foxgoosefinch · 03/02/2022 22:33

And Madonna was dreadful too, the whole music industry is full of people colluding with the sexism of the whole thing. And there are plenty who don’t, so there are also loads of even better musicians and performers out there to listen to, who don’t perform sexist and racist stereotypes for money.

changewwible · 03/02/2022 22:38

@ohfook

Also she's under no obligation to be a role model. I'm pretty sure Keith richards was a pretty shitty role model in my dad's day, but he turned out fine!
Good point. See also Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Ozzy, etc etc etc

And more recent male "role models" such as Mason Greenwood.... Eh. I don't even have time to list all of the footballers that young boys idolise that have cheated on/beaten their wives or been caught with prostitutes. And many of whom have maintained their wealth and stardom and idol status.

But a talented, educated, independent and beautiful black woman that raps about sex and wears skimpy outfits? Burn the witch.

OhWhyNot · 03/02/2022 22:39

Some women love being overtly sexual

They love that men look at them that way and other women too

Some have fun with it and it’s enjoyable for others to watch funny, sexy, exciting, ENTERTAINING!!!

WitchyStarLight · 03/02/2022 22:49

I cringe at rappers rapping about their penis.

Kendrick lamar raps his dick is long like the eiffel tower.. I just think how embarrassing rapping about your dick in a studio and then in a concert.

I said already that I like dancing around to her songs, I grew up with lil Kim, and tweet oops - best girl wanking song ever. I still am happy that my 16yr old dd doesn't want to emulate MTS or Cardi B. I used to go to 'yardy dances' in my youth where the dancing was part amazing and part - man humping woman hard and emulating sex. Woman backing her bum up for man to do so. I find it demeaning I suppose. But then I don't agree with stripping and believe prostitution is rape. I don't think being drooled at is a good thing. Not because I'm old and ugly (I'm not either), I just think the way society brings young girls up to be objectified by men shouldn't be something to aspire too. It's not sexual freedom, it's repressing.

Also my views aren't racist in that I think MTS shouldn't do it but Madonna should. I think the hyper sexualisation of black women to get anywhere in the music industry is awful. They have to work twice as hard and still aren't taken seriously. Chris brown and Rihanna spring to mind, if Rhianna was white and had what happened to her done by Chris brown then he'd never be working again.

SaySomethingMan · 03/02/2022 22:49

@VladmirsPoutine

You and anyone else who thinks this is a black vs white issue is deluded.

It's not a 'black' vs 'white' issue. It's a specific form of misogynoir white women are exceptionally skilled at perpetuating. If I had a penny for every time I'd witnessed it IRL and/or online I could probably pay the country's energy bills till 3033. Just look at how this thread has gone. Even the OP states that Madonna was merely a rebel but apparently Megan is ruining the children. That's right Megan is abusing the innocence of children - what an evil black woman. It's always the same schtick and no the 'My mother's best friend's neighbours dentist once walked passed a black man' defence isn't going to cut it. I'm half white - I don't care; white women are the issue.

You’re 100% but all sorts of excuses will be made
SaySomethingMan · 03/02/2022 22:52

@WitchyStarLight

I cringe at rappers rapping about their penis.

Kendrick lamar raps his dick is long like the eiffel tower.. I just think how embarrassing rapping about your dick in a studio and then in a concert.

I said already that I like dancing around to her songs, I grew up with lil Kim, and tweet oops - best girl wanking song ever. I still am happy that my 16yr old dd doesn't want to emulate MTS or Cardi B. I used to go to 'yardy dances' in my youth where the dancing was part amazing and part - man humping woman hard and emulating sex. Woman backing her bum up for man to do so. I find it demeaning I suppose. But then I don't agree with stripping and believe prostitution is rape. I don't think being drooled at is a good thing. Not because I'm old and ugly (I'm not either), I just think the way society brings young girls up to be objectified by men shouldn't be something to aspire too. It's not sexual freedom, it's repressing.

Also my views aren't racist in that I think MTS shouldn't do it but Madonna should. I think the hyper sexualisation of black women to get anywhere in the music industry is awful. They have to work twice as hard and still aren't taken seriously. Chris brown and Rihanna spring to mind, if Rhianna was white and had what happened to her done by Chris brown then he'd never be working again.

I’m a fan of Kendrick Lamar’s ( some of his songs anyway) but I’d never listened to this one. Anyway, He prays it becomes as long as the Eiffel Tower so he can ‘f’ the world for all it’s done at I guess.
Snoozer11 · 03/02/2022 22:53

I truly don't understand why all of these pop stars are so sexually charged.

Who is their target market?

Men and boys aren't big on bands like Little Mix. And if they want to see something "sexy", frankly they'd just watch porn.

Grown women will listen to these artists for the music. So they're not interested in their sexual dancing.

So they're doing all of this to appeal to teenage and preteen girls. And what's the point of that?