To not have complained due to worry about being perceived as a "Karen" ?

[ILoveHuskies]

Firstly, I bloody hate this term, it is only ever used for women, it is mysogynistic and ageist.

However - I don't ever want to be seen as one. I had a day out yesterday with my teen dd and we had really awful service in Pizza express, a 45 min wait for food and then they forgot part of the order and the waitress was not rude exactly, but sort of snippy. despite me being friendly and smiley as possible as I know its a hard job.

But the worry I would be seen as a karen was what stopped me complaining. I already feel like younger people see me in a negative way now I am past 40 and this karen shit makes it worse.

[quote lololololollll]@Cantleave woooooooow hold on a minute. Didn't say anything of the sort! Didn't even see Mumsnet as social media and it's more like being tagged in stuff so reputation is damaged. Pizza express is nothing like my little
Independent place and she's not mentioned a specific branch. Jesus way to go put words in my mouth😂😂😂[/quote]
Sorry, I didn’t mean anything nasty, I actually meant it with tongue in cheek. Op not complaining at the time, but complaining on here afterwards, when as you said it is better “complaining in the right way,” so the restaurant has the opportunity to sort the issue out at the time, instead of later! 🤣🤣

Yes @lololololollll I think you are right, better to be a ‘Karen’ than a Prick! There is definitely nothing wrong with “complaining in the right way” and that’s what the op should have done. It’s not fair on any Restaurant (or other places that provide a service) to complain elsewhere, without giving them a chance to sort out the issue at the time!

@Cantleave ah I did think that after I replied 😂

What the heck kind of example is that to show your dd

I can’t relate to this on any level

The 'slur' worked on you, didn't it? You did exactly what the people who want to close down mature and assured women wanted you to do. You didn't complain.
But you had every right to expect good, polite service, the sane as every other customer. I really hope you do follow through and complain. You don't deserve to be treated badly by an organisation where you're spending good money.
There aren't enough words to describe how I f#cking hate that ageist and misogynistic slur. And it's my name.

Being a Karen & being a pushover are two diff things. There's nothing wrong with complaining over shit service. I took a plastic spoon (they're free) from the daily snack trolley at work without asking , as the man in charge of it was on a rant to his coworker , so I didn't want to interrupt. He then ranted at me , in front of everyone, including my boss, who was on a call to a Client. Over a FREE spoon . I got a huge bunch of flowers as an apology & he got the push as he'd done other stuff too apparently.

@SnotRags

That’s how the Karen movement is designed to make you feel. It’s designed to shut women up and keep them in their place.

Well said.

Is the Karen thing still a thing? I thought it was done.

You should have complained.

@CaMePlaitPas

Is the Karen thing still a thing? I thought it was done.

You should have complained.

In mumsnet Universe, yes

Can’t say I ever have ever come across it once outside of mumsnet

Can’t say I ever have ever come across it once outside of mumsnet

Lucky you.

@CaMePlaitPas

Is the Karen thing still a thing? I thought it was done.

You should have complained.

I've heard it loads outside of MN. My adult son said it to me. He won't say it again!

My children have called me this when I complain about anything, do you know what? I don’t care, my best friend is called Karen and she is hands down the most fabulous, hardworking and exceptional mother I ever met. I hope I am like her!

Yoko Ono had it on the nose, way back in 1972. And doesn't this Karening just prove it? 50 bloody years later!!

I wouldn't care what I was called to be honest. If I feel the need to complain then I will!! Some ' Karen' calling won't stop or deter me I'm 43 not 5 in the playground!!

I’m nice as pie until someone pisses me off and then they’ve had it! Not an age thing though I’m now (almost) of Karenable age.

Just one rule though. Never complain about food in a restaurant and then order something else (I’ve heard too many horror stories) or come back too soon.

I have always spoke my mind, I'm happy to be at an age I don't give a damn what others think of me, it's so liberating. I've probably been sniped behind my back and called the K word but so what.

Anyone can be a Karen. It’s just a term used to describe someone who thinks they are above someone and demands what they want

However there definitely is a difference between being a Karen and complaining about poor service