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makkapacca · 2022-01-29T16:28:57+00:00

Came out when I was 12 and I loved it but at 36 caught it on tv last night and it is so cringy. Whilst I think Winslet and Leo are great actors their acting in it is cringe although I don't know if it's their inexperience or just the script. Every 2nd line is 'Jack Rose'. I don't get how both were nominated for Oscars for it when it genuinely wasn't good acting by any means on either part and again I think both are genuinely brilliant in their other films. Watching it is reminiscent of watching 90s Home and Away or just bad teenage tv acting. Yea the effects are great but the script in itself is just so mediocre and so 12 year old girl stuff. It didn't occur to me how little the film actually go into the subject matter of the Titanic like the creation of it and the aftermath of the sinking etc. The rich in it like Cal and Rose's mum are so 1 dimensional greedy villains which is kind of hypocritical considering how wealthy Cameron himself is, and the poor Irish on 3rd class are just laughably bad and cliche with accents Irish people never have. And I say that as an Irish person myself so no racism. A critic said after that the only reason it got oscar noms was because of the money it gained and I sort of agree. Again the effects and cinematography were great but the film itself was just a predictable cringe fest.

HelloFrostyMorning · 30/01/2022 13:19

@DearlyBeloathed

Well, it was bad film

In your opinion.

This exactly. I'm done on here. CBA with 'debating' with people who think that only THEIR opinion is correct. It's so small minded and ignorant, and very typical of some posters on mumsnet.

The ones who liked/loved Titanic are saying they loved it, it made them cry, it was wonderful, they still like it now, they thought it was an epic film etc etc. The ones who disliked/loathed it are making firm statements that is was bad/crap/shit/naff/cheesy/cringe etc etc...... Not in their opinion, but it just IS.

It shows a lack of critical thinking, a small mind, and general ignorance to just put your views as FACT.

As I said, I CBA to converse with people like this, I find them irksome, and tiring, and I don't want them to embarrass themselves any more.

So I'm done. I loved the film, and I thought it was wonderful, and I still do. Fuck what anyone else thinks.

PrincessNutella · 30/01/2022 13:19

I don't think you can go back with these things. It was on a big screen and one had not seen the Titanic portrayed the way it was then. Of course it was a ridiculous story. She threw the jewels back into the ocean! But it was also an emotionally hooking story. It worked. The special effects were excellent for the time. But now they definitely look cheesy on the small screen.

Sloughsabigplace · 30/01/2022 13:24

I used it as a learning tool for my ds when he started dating girls.

Jack was such a dick. Look at all the trouble
he got into and how many times he almost died and DID die for a girl he’d known for five minutes.

They would have got to New York, had a bust up over what colour curtains to buy and split up. He died for that.

And there was room on the door, the selfish cow.

Basically, I told ds don’t be a dick like Jack over a girl, no matter if she’s let you paint her in the nuddy.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 30/01/2022 13:29

And there was room on the door, the selfish cow.

There was, wasn't it? Well, not quite enough for waterpolo team for example, but still. She was clearly never taught to share when she was a toddler.

DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 13:45

@makkapacca

I took so much shit for years. It only stopped when Leo fell back into favour, after Inception, and Shutter Island came out, (both 2010,) and Leo became hugely popular again.. (And still is...)

leo never fell out of favour with the masses though,he was always pretty much universally loved. Yes he did fluff like titanic and r and j which were aimed at teenage girl audience yet he had plenty of big universally loved hits like catch me if you can, the departed and gangs of new york many years before inception.

Titanic wasn't intended for teenage girls. Its original audience was way more diverse than that and still is. It would never have got the reviews you hate so much otherwise. And William Shakespeare wasn't writing teen flicks either. That script is still taught in schools and performed on stages now. And Steven Spielberg has just released a remake of a famous musical based on it, to critical acclaim.

That PP was correct. Once something is enjoyed by teenage girls, people assume that's the only audience and it must be mindless crap for that reason alone.

Also, there was nothing wrong with the acting in Titanic. Di Caprio has always been a brilliant actor. So is Winslet and the rest of the cast...Billy Zane was terrifying.

I'm really starting to get the impression that it's your own 12 year old self you're trying to distance yourself from. Give the kid a break. She was 12.

DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 13:51

I bet nobody saw Ian McKellen in the "modern day" (well, 1940s) film adaptation of Richard III and thought it was "fluff" just because they'd done something to make it a bit more relatable to the modern day. Personally I LOVE it when people put Shakespeare in modern settings, showing how the stories are still relevant. Plus ca change, after all.

And I thought Baz Luhrmann's R&J was a brilliant way of telling the story to a new generation. Doing it in a time when teen movies were popular was a great idea. Turning the Queen Mab speech into a drug reference was truly inspired. It really worked.

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:08

And William Shakespeare wasn't writing teen flicks either. That script is still taught in schools and performed on stages now

it still doesn't make it any less of a chick flick in the same way emma or jane austen novels are. Yes Shakespeare wrote plays for the masses but r and j would have being predominantly aimed at the fairer sex.

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DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:11

@makkapacca

And William Shakespeare wasn't writing teen flicks either. That script is still taught in schools and performed on stages now

it still doesn't make it any less of a chick flick in the same way emma or jane austen novels are. Yes Shakespeare wrote plays for the masses but r and j would have being predominantly aimed at the fairer sex.

Ok, Romeo and Juliet was aimed at women, even in 1597. Why does that mean it has to be crap, or mere "fluff"? And would you say that about it the next time the RSC performs it?

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:15

I am not saying it was crap, i am saying it was a career move which at the time would have being selling the young leo to a teenage girl/younger women fanbase in the same way predator was selling arnie to a younger male demographic.

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DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:18

@makkapacca

I am not saying it was crap, i am saying it was a career move which at the time would have being selling the young leo to a teenage girl/younger women fanbase in the same way predator was selling arnie to a younger male demographic.

He had the perfect young romantic hero look, like Cary Elwes in The Princess Bride. I love Harrison Ford but I wouldn't have cast him as Jack. What, Kate Winslet wasn't appealing to the men? I remember the boys being dazzled by her. The casting required good looking young people, so what?

HufflepuffPride · 30/01/2022 14:19

@TatianaBis

Titanic and Love Actually are two of the most cringe films ever made. Plus Mama Mia.

Oh I like Mama Mia as well!

DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:20

Mama Mia is exactly what it's supposed to be. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it hits its mark perfectly.

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:21

What, Kate Winslet wasn't appealing to the men? I remember the boys being dazzled by her. The casting required good looking young people, so what

yea cos she got her boobs out, a move pretty unheard of for a mainstream film that was on the mainstream and like a pg/12 cert. Winslet looked pretty in the film but she was always an average looking girl, nothing amazing. Di Caprio was more pin up looking boy back then and was certainly above average.

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DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:27

@makkapacca

What, Kate Winslet wasn't appealing to the men? I remember the boys being dazzled by her. The casting required good looking young people, so what

yea cos she got her boobs out, a move pretty unheard of for a mainstream film that was on the mainstream and like a pg/12 cert. Winslet looked pretty in the film but she was always an average looking girl, nothing amazing. Di Caprio was more pin up looking boy back then and was certainly above average.

She was perhaps a bit more "girl next door" than most Hollywood starlets but she's always been beautiful. The role wouldn't have gone to me no matter how well I acted, put it that way. I'm sure Leo's looks appealed to the younger women, so what? That's why lead roles usually go to good looking people, and there are more women being selected for their looks than men.

It quite clearly had a wider appeal than just teenage girls and a handsome male lead. You don't get that kind of success, especially when it cost so much to make and required more cinema attendance than usual because its length meant it had fewer showings and ate into showtimes for other films, if it's got only a very niche audience.

There's nothing wrong with not liking it, or thinking it's overrated or whatever. But it's obtuse to pretend that it has nothing going for it at all and that it's had such enduring success, despite its disadvantages, because everyone in 1998 was stupid.

DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:28

Oh, and the boob shot was a few seconds, in context. To think we had yet to get Game Of Thrones on our screens!

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:33

She was perhaps a bit more "girl next door" than most Hollywood starlets but she's always been beautiful

not really no, 'beautiful' is a term given to above average. Winslet looked like just another girl/woman you'd see in the supermarket or you'd work with. She always was and is an average looking woman.

'Beautiful' are the type who'd stand out like young Michelle Pfeiffer or Mila Kunis etc. Winslet was never 'beautiful', not that there's anything wrong with that, most of us aren't.

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DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:35

All right. Kate Winslet isn't beautiful. God, I'd kill to be as non-beautiful as she is.

powershowerforanhour · 30/01/2022 14:36

"remember reading Cameron was so obsessed with attention to detail that he had the exact tableware recommissioned only to destroy it when the boat starts to sink."

Pity he didn't spend some of the €200M budget on a voice coach for Victor Garber. His acting was good but the accent was wrong.

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:37

You just think it because she was playing the lead female in 1 of the biggest romances ever, if she worked at your local Tesco back then or was in your college class you'd not think anything of her. Nice body I suppose in her nude shot but 'beautiful' is stretching it.

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Pootlepoodle · 30/01/2022 14:38

Winslet looked pretty in the film but she was always an average looking girl, nothing amazing.

WTAF???

All right. Kate Winslet isn't beautiful. God, I'd kill to be as non-beautiful as she is.

Yeah, me too!

DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:40

@makkapacca

You just think it because she was playing the lead female in 1 of the biggest romances ever, if she worked at your local Tesco back then or was in your college class you'd not think anything of her. Nice body I suppose in her nude shot but 'beautiful' is stretching it.

Like I said, OK, she's not beautiful. I'd still love to be that level of not beautiful.

What's this got to do with the film apparently having no reason at all to have any appreciative audience?

Pootlepoodle · 30/01/2022 14:41

Also beauty is about spirit as well as body parts and Kate absolutely shines in Titanic!

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:44

What's this got to do with the film apparently having no reason at all to have any appreciative audience

because it was said upthread how the attractiveness of the 2 actors helped sell the film and I said that whilst this was true for Di Caprio who was at the time a pin up boy, Winslet was always more of a serious actress on the Meryl Streep league and was never really a 'beauty'.

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DrSbaitso · 30/01/2022 14:47

@makkapacca

What's this got to do with the film apparently having no reason at all to have any appreciative audience

because it was said upthread how the attractiveness of the 2 actors helped sell the film and I said that whilst this was true for Di Caprio who was at the time a pin up boy, Winslet was always more of a serious actress on the Meryl Streep league and was never really a 'beauty'.

I see.

Well, let's just say I've never met a single man who refused to watch the scene because she wasn't worth his sight, and nor have you.

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makkapacca · 30/01/2022 14:50

Well, let's just say I've never met a single man who refused to watch the scene because she wasn't worth his sight, and nor have you

she was 22 and young looking, many of us are bangable at that age but still doesn't mean we are beauties.

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