To ask if you can think of an excuse which will get 11yo off PE for the rest of term?

[HelloKittyGirl]

Just that, basically. What would get her off games for a few weeks?

@Asperula

I'm surprised at a school letting kids sit in the library if they are missing PE. It's practically encouraging kids to skip PE so they can hang out with their friends there rather than attend a lesson. They could end up with hardly any doing PE and most getting a note from their parents to have time out of lessons

Save the school some money then when they no longer need a pet

I didn't like PE. My dd doesn't particularly like PE. I'd never lie for her though and I'd never devalue subjects as you have just because I don't think they are important. If she wants out, she can figure it out herself 🤷‍♀️

Rather than asking randoms for excuses you can use to lie why not go with the truth. Tell them your snowflake doesn't like it, you don't think it's important and she won't be participating when it's cold? Surely that's a better way to go, not to mention a better lesson?

PE is part of body autonomy. It's absolutely not like maths or history. If your child is so unhappy that they've asked you to get them out of it then do it. PE is a humiliating pile of shit and
breeding ground for bullies, it leaves long lasting emotional scars in many children and the sooner that's recognised the better. 40 years ago I got out of it by simply getting changed, walking out to whatever pitch and standing still for the duration. Literally refusing to move until the lesson ended. There's nothing they can do to make you move. Saddest time of my life.

• obesity and never ended up working behind a till.

But sport is so very very important. No it isn't, exercising is. Eating well is. Being kind is. Being empathetic is.*

Well you don't come across as very kind and what is wrong with working behind a till ?

@Asperula my apologies. I didn't mean to upset you or anyone else personally vi's a vi's weight or working in a supermarket. However, I do think there's a parallel between what affords success at school and what actually matters later in life. PE certainly does not represent cutting edge life skills later on. I am sorry if I put that in sensitively and I do understand dd has adhd and keeping her on the straight and narrow has not been easy. It certainly wasn't helped by school PE culture and I fought very hard against that.

@Asperula

Which tells you that they are not the ones getting stick, says nothing about others, guarantee some kids are being bullied by some staff and pupils without a shadow of a doubt No they would mention if they'd seen that.

If

[quote RosesAndHellebores]@Drunkpanda what precisely shoukd I be ashamed about. I never bullied anyone or made them cry or humiliated them. They did that to me. One thing I'll say is that it built my resilience at work and to think of the feelings of others.

I never said at the till "bra haa, you've turned into a fatso - couldn't you have done better? Perhaps they ended up with stodgy, pedestrian lives because they were just plain nasty and didn't deblvelop appropriate life skills.[/quote]
I too find your comments quite upsetting, I was reasonably good at some sports when I was in school, never talented particularly but I took part in most things, I have also worked a variety of jobs including behind a till and feel quite sad that someone like you would look down on me because of it (I also put weight on after I left school, so glad you’d also take delight in that too) I am also of the opinion that having a go at everything at least gives you the opportunity to rule out what you don’t like!

If sport isn't exercise what is it?

The PE curriculum is much more varied than it used to be and includes non-competive exercise.
However, competition is not to be sneered at. Whether you're good or bad at whatever you're competing in (sporting/academic/artistic) there are life lessons to be learned which you won't get in a maths lesson, no matter how valuable the maths lesson may be.
And that is the point of having a balanced curriculum with a variety of subjects and learning types, so that our DC develop a variety of skills.

Finally, and bizarrely if mumsnet is anything to go by, most PE teachers are not bullies

@Maestoso

PE is part of body autonomy. It's absolutely not like maths or history. If your child is so unhappy that they've asked you to get them out of it then do it. PE is a humiliating pile of shit and breeding ground for bullies, it leaves long lasting emotional scars in many children and the sooner that's recognised the better. 40 years ago I got out of it by simply getting changed, walking out to whatever pitch and standing still for the duration. Literally refusing to move until the lesson ended. There's nothing they can do to make you move. Saddest time of my life.

See? More projection.

Honestly it makes me wonder how some people manage to raise well rounded, open minded kids when parents have this sort of attitude. You could say the same about absolutely any school lesson that the parents state was the 'saddest time of their lives'.

Your school days are over now. Stop re-living them through children.

[quote RosesAndHellebores]@Drunkpanda what precisely shoukd I be ashamed about. I never bullied anyone or made them cry or humiliated them. They did that to me. One thing I'll say is that it built my resilience at work and to think of the feelings of others.

I never said at the till "bra haa, you've turned into a fatso - couldn't you have done better? Perhaps they ended up with stodgy, pedestrian lives because they were just plain nasty and didn't deblvelop appropriate life skills.[/quote]
Possibly

Pe was quite different 30 years ago
We were made to wear knickers and shower etc
Its not the same in most schools
And to the poster who said all kids who are good at sport are the bullied that isn't the cAse, bullies come in all shapes and sizes
To make such a generalisation and then insult people because they now work behind a till calling them names, doesn't show empathy or being nice
Its part of the curriculum sometimes in life you have to just get on with things

[quote RosesAndHellebores]@Asperula my apologies. I didn't mean to upset you or anyone else personally vi's a vi's weight or working in a supermarket. However, I do think there's a parallel between what affords success at school and what actually matters later in life. PE certainly does not represent cutting edge life skills later on. I am sorry if I put that in sensitively and I do understand dd has adhd and keeping her on the straight and narrow has not been easy. It certainly wasn't helped by school PE culture and I fought very hard against that.[/quote]
You've just insulted every overweight shop worker on Mumsnet. How do you expect them to feel when you're clearly looking down your nose at them?

@oviraptor21

If sport isn't exercise what is it?

The PE curriculum is much more varied than it used to be and includes non-competive exercise.
However, competition is not to be sneered at. Whether you're good or bad at whatever you're competing in (sporting/academic/artistic) there are life lessons to be learned which you won't get in a maths lesson, no matter how valuable the maths lesson may be.
And that is the point of having a balanced curriculum with a variety of subjects and learning types, so that our DC develop a variety of skills.

Finally, and bizarrely if mumsnet is anything to go by, most PE teachers are not bullies

Your last bit about PE teachers not being bullies - absolutely. My PE teacher was wonderful, knew when to push us to have a go and when enough was enough, we also had a very young (although she must have seemed so grown up to us!) teacher at the time who realised that we weren’t interested in ‘conventional’ PE and taught us the basics of self defence instead. So it doesn’t all have to be hockey and running laps around a sports hall to be valuable.

@mummykel16 yes save money and have people out of work
Deny some kids who sport might be the only thing they are good at and the only time they can do it as they don't have parents who take them to clubs
But hey dob't worry about that as they don't matter
They do 1 -2 hrs a week now at secondary not exactly a lot out of 25 hrs of school

@mummykel16 if your child is being bullied you report , especially by staff
Who would not go and challenge that

@louderthan there is non team sports etc
They do badminton , athletics , running, tennis , all sorts and certainly in my ds school put in groups of similar abilities

[quote worriedatthemoment]@mummykel16 yes save money and have people out of work
Deny some kids who sport might be the only thing they are good at and the only time they can do it as they don't have parents who take them to clubs
But hey dob't worry about that as they don't matter
They do 1 -2 hrs a week now at secondary not exactly a lot out of 25 hrs of school [/quote]
Ah well. Let's force All kids to do it then that's much better.

@Maestoso buts not 40 years ago
Its run very differently now and bullies exist everywhere in all subjects
Some of the academic kids can be pretty cruel to the non academic ones
Its part of the curriculum they have to do if unless an actual injury or exceptional reason

It's not about whether you have a problem with it, or if she'd rather be in the library. You're reinforcing the message that if she doesn't like a subject she doesn't have to do it. You wouldn't write a note to get her out of maths lessons. PE is exactly the same.
@Hercisback No it really isn't. Maths is important. PE is PE.

The best avoidance I managed was half of a term when I did "traffic education" instead of PE. If I had been in PE then on wet days I would have had to participate in a mixed lesson where we learnt proper dancing, i. e. waltzing and stuff. It was utterly ghastly. I seriously considered self harm to get out of it so a course designed for pre-drivers was a God send. And I got a certificate for it.

OP, what about a veruka, would that swing it?

@mummykel16 yes it is as for some kids thats the only exercise they do get , every kid will have subjects they don't like ,,can they all opt out of them as well

[quote worriedatthemoment]@mummykel16 if your child is being bullied you report , especially by staff
Who would not go and challenge that[/quote]
There are much better ways

@5foot5 why would a verucca swing it , its not bare foot
Pretty sure they don't do waltzing now
Most of the ones complaining are comparing to pe 30/40 years ago
They do so much more now in schools
Trampolining , badminton, wheelchair basketball all sorts

@mummykel16 really how
Use threatening behaviour yourself ?
If you seriously know of a teacher bullying your report it so that its dealt with and that person no longer bulies

[quote worriedatthemoment]@mummykel16 yes it is as for some kids thats the only exercise they do get , every kid will have subjects they don't like ,,can they all opt out of them as well[/quote]
Just the ones that don't matter, PE being just one

This is what after school clubs are for

I'm flabbergasted you're teaching her to lie like this.