What about... Still enjoying Boris' downfall Part 4. The one with the report released?

[jgw1]

Part 4

Of course he says it !!! Do you really believe him ?

Why wouldn’t I? It takes a great deal to persuade him to take responsibility for anything. I’m happy to think it’s one of the very few occasions he’s not lying through his teeth when he does.

Behind the scenes it sounds like Tories are readying themselves for leadership challenges:

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rishi-sunak-puts-final-touches-on-leadership-bid-and-says-partygate-could-be-e2-80-98unsurvivable-e2-80-99-for-boris-johnson/ar-AAThavG

I wonder if they've got wind of what the report concludes?

Sunak needs to act on the ££££ Covid fraud though or it may be his achilles heel.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/minister-who-quit-over-covid-fraud-warns-rishi-sunak-has-said-zippo-about-how-to-recoup-billions/ar-AATgLjr

Don't start fibbing. Nobody suggested he was just the messenger. I pointed out that when he stood at the podium he was simply conveying the message that cabinet (or parliament in the case of laws) had decided.

So he was just the messenger then.

Oh gawd not the messenger thing again. 🤯

@borntobequiet

Don't start fibbing. Nobody suggested he was just the messenger. I pointed out that when he stood at the podium he was simply conveying the message that cabinet (or parliament in the case of laws) had decided.

So he was just the messenger then.

Could parliament have got the lockdown rules through without BJ agreeing?

@Florianus

DePfeffoff: Of course that culture, particularly during the pandemic, is indefensible. And that includes the person at the top who carries ultimate responsibility and allowed it to carry on

I once saw the job of the PM described as similar to that of the conductor of an orchestra. Yes, responsible for the performance as a whole, but nobody in their right mind would blame the conductor for the second oboist playing a bum note, for the orchestral manager failing to put out enough chairs, or for the box office mischarging for seats.

The days of ministers taking (in theory only) responsibility for the mistakes of their staff are long gone. If the Met decide to issue Fixed Penalty Notices, it will be to the people who attended the events in question, and to those who invited others to them.

All the conductors I know would think they were responsible if their orchestra played some bum notes.

I think you also missed the part where Big Baby had to have a birthday party even though millions of children could not on the orders of Big Baby.

Th Govt has used the Gray report and the Met debacle to snick out with minimal publicity is the freezing of the student loan repayment threshold, a pay cut for millions of students and kick in the teeth for AHP working in the NHS on top of the NI increase.

Meanwhile the country's number of billionaires increases and oil companies who have made a fortune as energy prices have risen will not be expected to pay any extra.

Regardless of Johnsons behavior, this Govt is truly awful.

@Peregrina

Flo, what is the point of a leader if not to take responsibility?

Yes, this. Flo's picture of Johnson as PM appears to be of a man who just happens to be bumbling round Downing Street, and gatecrashing other people's parties. Now that might be his own perception of the job, oiled by nice helpings of taxpayers money/Tory donors cash for favours, but I think most of us would like PM who attempted to do the job.

I don't want Boris to try and do the job, think how much worse it would be if he did, rather than tending the pot plants, perfecting is clown routine to raise moral and taste testing in the wine cellar.

@Peregrina

Anyway, it seems that some Senior Tories are not happy about the Sue Gray report being held back.

Just in passing I note that it says that Fixed Penalty Notices can be up to £10,000. Who would have thought that reading these threads? More like FPNs are a £200 fine and a slapped wrist.

Apparently you can get a £17,000 FPN for parking wrongly outside hairdressers in Bradford.

@ClaudineClare

Oh gawd not the messenger thing again. 🤯

I go out for the day, and come back to find that for some reason a poster has started over on Boris was just reads out messages. Does he get those messages from the pot plants he spends the rest of the time tending, or the wine he has responsibility for?

He has got away with it hasn't he? People are just fed up with it all and want to move on.

the Met have saved his bacon and as Nick Robinson said "He is the luckiest politician ever"

@Alexandra2001

He has got away with it hasn't he? People are just fed up with it all and want to move on.

the Met have saved his bacon and as Nick Robinson said "He is the luckiest politician ever"

No, he hasn’t got away with it. Wait and see what happens in the local elections.

When I was a civil servant, Ministers were barely allowed to release a fart without it being signed off by No.10 (and Treasury).

But Certain Posters know better, I guess.

@ClaudineClare

When I was a civil servant, Ministers were barely allowed to release a fart without it being signed off by No.10 (and Treasury).

But Certain Posters know better, I guess.

It is all different now, with Boris in charge, everyone is just allowed to do anything they like, but that is fine none of it is Boris' responsibility, he just reads out messages people write, doesn't have any responsibility for the content of them

I wonder if the No.10 wine suitcase is still around. Could we stuff Johnson into it (I know it might be a squeeze, but maybe if we all sat on the lid we'd be able to zip it up?) and chuck it off a cliff or down a disused mine-shaft?

(Awaiting deletion of this post).

I have had a large glass of red work and probably should not post anything else now...

@ClaudineClare

I have had a large glass of red work and probably should not post anything else now...

I love the fact on a thread about whether drinking wine at work is working you've made the type "red work"

@jgw1 one of my DC is due to have their first bday party since 2019 as in lockdown 2020 & 2021 - shame as had i known it was fine I could have arranged them a cake based work meeting...

@Alexandra2001& @Blossomtoes I felt the same frustration over Cummings remaining in No 10 after he torpedoed the public health messaging by travelling the country when ill, visiting a hospital in the NE (when Covid hadn't established there yet) and coming up with the cock and bull eyesight trip. Then Johnson said of course that was all 'reasonable'! Cummings wasn't ousted immediately but the door had been opened and he was finally pushed. Same will happen with Johnson. He's sharkfood, it's just a question of when.

Maybe Putin can take him off our hands

itsgettingweird 'twas not a typo!

It is all different now, with Boris in charge, everyone is just allowed to do anything they like, but that is fine none of it is Boris' responsibility, he just reads out messages people write, doesn't have any responsibility for the content of them

I blame the mutant algorithm.

Now then, what to have? Red work or white work tonight?

at this tweet from Bobby McDonagh

Ukraine has sent urgent request to London that an airlift of cats and dogs be prioritised over planned visit by PM Johnson

I've always thought DC kept something in his back pocket (glasses maybe?) to torpedo the SG report.

It may take time but I think he's on his way out.

@ClaudineClare

itsgettingweird 'twas not a typo!

After I posted I did cross my mind it was deliberate.

In that case it's more comic genius than a fab typo