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What about... Still enjoying Boris' downfall Part 4. The one with the report released?

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jgw1 · 28/01/2022 17:14

Part 4

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jgw1 · 28/01/2022 18:45

@Blossomtoes

Thanks *@jgw1*. I see the deletions have started already. It’s really fucking tedious.
Popped out, got ambushed by some chips and come back to discover that, and the squirrels are at it again.
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DuncinToffee · 28/01/2022 18:49

Sensitive souls they are but see nothing wrong with 'let the bodies pile high' comment.

Blossomtoes · 28/01/2022 18:50

For anyone trivialising this, here’s why I’m angry about “a bit of cake”.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/28/sue-gray-report-britain-liar-met-police-partygate-report

itsgettingweird · 28/01/2022 18:54

Popping in for the chat.

May I ambush you all with some Cake?

DuncinToffee · 28/01/2022 18:56

Joe Lycett on why he is angry
twitter.com/joelycett/status/1487076326196535308?t=4fXZ1ZPpqLqlpfICAchchA&s=19

mumda · 28/01/2022 18:59

@pussycatunpickingcrossesagain

That's a very optimistic title. 😂 We'll be lucky to get lots of black "redacted" printing with Sue written on the front. 🎂🤦‍♀️
My council redacted documents to me. There were about 100 words visible over 6 pages.. Rather than count them I saved the pdf as a text doc. Which then showed me every single word. Which was interesting.

They never did it again sadly. I suspect they realised very soon afterwards.

Peregrina · 28/01/2022 19:05

Maybe his departure will be like Hemingway (?) and bankruptcy?

How did you go bankrupt?
First slowly, then suddenly.

I can't see Johnson being able to clean up his act and clear out all the lightweights that he has surrounded himself with, so his fall from grace could be slow (as it has been) and then sudden.

DePfeffoff · 28/01/2022 19:08

Is there any chance at all of this being the thread where the Tory supporters finally get it through their heads that it's pointless blethering on about "but it was OK to eat and drink in the office" in connection with the birthday do? They keep saying that, they keep being reminded that the issue isn't eating and drinking but that indoor gatherings were only allowed if reasonably required for work purposes and manifestly a birthday do isn't reasonably required. But somehow they keep conveniently forgetting it.

mum2jakie · 28/01/2022 19:09

I've just emailed my (Tory) MP. I'm hoping that they may consider supporting a vote of no confidence if they think their own jobs are at risk!

Hawkins001 · 28/01/2022 19:14

@Words

I was a grade 7 civil Whitehall servant until a few years ago. I worked in various departments and in Private Offices and saw none of what she /he is describing. Perhaps it happened in the 70s and 80s or something, but not in recent decades. By the end of my career we were barely allowed to provide lunches at meetings because of cuts.

This from the previous thread with absolute knobs on.

I have no doubt there are colleagues lurking out there shaking their heads before collapsing in giggles at the allegations of hampers and claret in the modern civil service. I don't really have the words to express how far removed from reality that perception is of how things are.

This is why the whole Number Ten thing is so shameful and shocking to the rest of us.

A fish rots from the head and all that.

( reasonably senior, several decades' service across a number of departments)

By the same token, sometimes a body can be corrupted, which then corrupts the head.
ClaudineClare · 28/01/2022 19:14

@Florianus would you mind telling us which Department(s) you worked with in the claret and hamper days and when this was?

DuncinToffee · 28/01/2022 19:16

This is a real post

twitter.com/TownsendMark/status/1487112939513552898?t=66Qfyt7kIPD5aYxvZmLqDQ&s=19
Met are looking at issuing a statement explaining their use of the word "prejudice" when asking for the Sue Gray report to be watered down. They say its use was unfortunate and open to interpretation. Yup.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/01/2022 19:16

1 in 10 covid related statutory instrument came in to effect before Parliament could even see them

Frankly I'm amazed it was only 1 in 10 ...

jgw1 · 28/01/2022 19:17

By the same token, sometimes a body can be corrupted, which then corrupts the head.

I am trying to work out how one would corrupt Big Baby, and I think the answer would be it would turn him into an honest human being.

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Notonthestairs · 28/01/2022 19:19

Johnson went in to office already corrupted.

ClaudineClare · 28/01/2022 19:19

By the same token, sometimes a body can be corrupted, which then corrupts the head

I really resent this. Most Whitehall civil servants, the majority of whom got their jobs through open competition, are not corrupt. Some will be by the law of averages, but that is true for any organisation.

Blossomtoes · 28/01/2022 19:19

@mum2jakie

I've just emailed my (Tory) MP. I'm hoping that they may consider supporting a vote of no confidence if they think their own jobs are at risk!
No point in me emailing mine again. He’s still waiting for Sue Gray’s report. 😳
jgw1 · 28/01/2022 19:20

[quote ClaudineClare]@Florianus would you mind telling us which Department(s) you worked with in the claret and hamper days and when this was?[/quote]
Department of Fairies and Make belief (DoFaM).

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Hawkins001 · 28/01/2022 19:21

@jgw1

By the same token, sometimes a body can be corrupted, which then corrupts the head.

I am trying to work out how one would corrupt Big Baby, and I think the answer would be it would turn him into an honest human being.

To survive politics, one could argue that you need a streak of Machiavelli, with a dash of Plato, philosophy.
Alexandra2001 · 28/01/2022 19:24

@Blossomtoes

Thanks *@jgw1*. I see the deletions have started already. It’s really fucking tedious.
In this case, they were right, i reported one of them.
Notonthestairs · 28/01/2022 19:39

twitter.com/hugogye/status/1487141693811998724?s=21

So the report will be published next week but with redactions - apparently the hold up has been all about fixed penalty notices...

22itsallnew · 28/01/2022 19:42

Continued from them eat car thread

@JaniieJones *I have empathy for those that have suffered. We have endured like everyone else however I can see why the restrictions were needed to reduce spread *

Yes we all understood the need for restrictions to reduce spread and the majority abided by them. Probably why so many are upset, angry & let down by double standards Johnson.

Joe Lycett explained it well on twitter- no wake for his long term friend who died of cancer in the first lockdown, no final goodbye. While we now find bring your own booze gatherings were in the garden of No 10.

I ask again, you said you homeschooled - which years are your DC in? Where you working at home too during the long months of lockdown?

DuncinToffee · 28/01/2022 19:42

Link to Met statement from the Hugo Gye tweet
news.met.police.uk/news/the-mps-has-today-received-material-from-the-cabinet-office-to-support-its-investigation-441503

pussycatunpickingcrossesagain · 28/01/2022 19:43

@mumda
I'm ex-local govt. I can believe that quite easily...🤦‍♀️

Booklover3 · 28/01/2022 19:47

I can’t help but think now the MET have weighed in that it’ll all be covered up and buried.

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