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What about... Still enjoying Boris' downfall Part 4. The one with the report released?

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jgw1 · 28/01/2022 17:14

Part 4

OP posts:
Clavinova · 30/01/2022 19:59

And this is the guy you are holding up as being more successful in combating covid than Boris "got all the big decisions right" Johnson

It was Trump who wanted to ban flights from China when everyone else said that wasn't necessary. And if I remember correctly, the US were doing better than Ireland (per million population) as well.

Alexandra2001 · 30/01/2022 20:02

@Clavinova ..and were the travel bans successful ?

itsgettingweird · 30/01/2022 20:03

@Clavinova

What was he saying here?

You would have to be a bit of a twit if you thought he said drink some bleach.

Definitely.

But suggesting you could possibly hi Jeff bleach through the skin into the lungs - is perfectly sane Wink

Clavinova · 30/01/2022 20:03

John Major got peace in Northern Ireland done. Blair finished it off and got all the credit but Major did the heavy lifting. Brown ran the economy perfectly for ten years, he got plenty done. Given a choice between integrity and “getting things done”, I’ll take integrity.

John Major managed to fit in a 4 year extramarital affair.

cakeorwine · 30/01/2022 20:03

There's an interesting theory in human behaviour about people. Basically recent events have more of an impact on how we think about something than more distant ones.

I wonder what impact this, the way he tackled the pandemic etc will have on people in a few years time when there is an election. 2020 was a few years ago. What will be worried about and basing our vote on in 2024?

notimagain · 30/01/2022 20:05

[quote Clavinova]DuncinToffee
What about the other facts?

The facts about France and Australia having 'working' tracing apps?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8510941/Coronavirus-contact-tracing-apps-flop-France-Australia.html[/quote]
Care to do any more research Clav or is this just another case of you being lazy and grabbing the first convenient link from the DM (dated over 18 months ago)?

If you had bothered to fast forward a year and a half and actually looked harder you would have discovered France has got a successful widely used working tracing app, it’s now called TousAntiCovid, about 50,000,000 copies of which have been downloaded as of early January..

www.rfi.fr/en/france/20220107-tousanticovid-becomes-most-downloaded-app-in-france

You’re welcome.

FatFredsFriedEgg · 30/01/2022 20:05

@Clavinova

And this is the guy you are holding up as being more successful in combating covid than Boris "got all the big decisions right" Johnson

It was Trump who wanted to ban flights from China when everyone else said that wasn't necessary. And if I remember correctly, the US were doing better than Ireland (per million population) as well.

It wasn't necessary because at that point China had a low infection rate and the developing-to-be-realised epicentre was Italy, the yet-to-be-realised epicentre was the UK.

I expect you can find something to tell us how long it took our government to take appropriate measures?

Clavinova · 30/01/2022 20:05

But suggesting you could possibly hi Jeff bleach through the skin into the lungs - is perfectly sane

I liked Hillary Clinton myself - that's who I would have voted for in 2016 given the choice.

itsgettingweird · 30/01/2022 20:07

@Clavinova

But suggesting you could possibly hi Jeff bleach through the skin into the lungs - is perfectly sane

I liked Hillary Clinton myself - that's who I would have voted for in 2016 given the choice.

I'm sure many wish they'd done the same!

I liked Rory Stewart for conservatives.

But for some reason I stuck with the Tories and bites this chump in instead.

Hindsight's a marvellous thing

Peregrina · 30/01/2022 20:16

There's an interesting theory in human behaviour about people. Basically recent events have more of an impact on how we think about something than more distant ones.

I think that depends on the magnitude of the events. It took my parents until about 1960 to finally put the War to rest. Similarly Maggie Thatcher and the Closure of the mines, Blair and Iraq.

Alexandra2001 · 30/01/2022 20:18

@Clavinova

But suggesting you could possibly hi Jeff bleach through the skin into the lungs - is perfectly sane

I liked Hillary Clinton myself - that's who I would have voted for in 2016 given the choice.

Good choice, see you can post good stuff too :)
Alexandra2001 · 30/01/2022 20:20

Rory Stewart has some real world experience and would have made a great PM, surrounding himself with talent not just a cabinet of Brexitiers.

merrymouse · 30/01/2022 20:24

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/24/the-empty-promise-of-boris-johnson

“I’ve got nothing,” Johnson said. Britain is about to find out what nothing means.

GreenLunchBox · 30/01/2022 20:26

@Clavinova

He said that we should inject it!

Did any twits in the US inject themselves with bleach?

Yes, somebody died www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-cure-kills-man-after-trump-touts-chloroquine-phosphate

And bleach poisonings spiked time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/

cakeorwine · 30/01/2022 20:26

@Alexandra2001

Rory Stewart has some real world experience and would have made a great PM, surrounding himself with talent not just a cabinet of Brexitiers.
This reminds me of this from the West Wing.

The President likes smart people who disagree with him.

I wonder what effect being surrounded by people with a very similar mindset has on Johnson and the Cabinet?

Clavinova · 30/01/2022 20:26

echt
He got the big things right, did he?

Yes - mostly. Funny that the article compares the UK to Belgium (vaccines) when a previous poster said Belgium is hardly comparable (deaths per million population).

Slightly different figures but economic forecasts here;

25 Jan 2022
(Bloomberg) -- Britain will be the fastest growing major industrial economy for a second consecutive year in 2022, the International Monetary Fund said. The Washington-based institution expects 4.7% growth in the U.K. this year after a 7.2% expansion in 2021, putting it at the top of the growth table in the Group of Seven nations for two consecutive years.

www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/u-k-set-for-fastest-growth-in-g-7-for-a-second-year-imf-says

OECD Economic Outlook

www.oecd.org/newsroom/oecd-economic-outlook-sees-recovery-continuing-but-warns-of-growing-imbalances-and-risks.htm

GreenLunchBox · 30/01/2022 20:27

Of course Clavinova is a Trumpster 🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣

cakeorwine · 30/01/2022 20:28

*Yes, somebody died www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-cure-kills-man-after-trump-touts-chloroquine-phosphate

And bleach poisonings spiked time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump*

TBF - Chloroquine is not disinfectant. That was when chloroquine was the drug of the day being discussed by Trump

Blossomtoes · 30/01/2022 20:31

@Clavinova

John Major got peace in Northern Ireland done. Blair finished it off and got all the credit but Major did the heavy lifting. Brown ran the economy perfectly for ten years, he got plenty done. Given a choice between integrity and “getting things done”, I’ll take integrity.

John Major managed to fit in a 4 year extramarital affair.

And your point is? We’re talking political integrity here, not an ability to multi task. Did he or did he not negotiate the Good Friday agreement?
derxa · 30/01/2022 20:33

@Peregrina

There's an interesting theory in human behaviour about people. Basically recent events have more of an impact on how we think about something than more distant ones.

I think that depends on the magnitude of the events. It took my parents until about 1960 to finally put the War to rest. Similarly Maggie Thatcher and the Closure of the mines, Blair and Iraq.

Were you a miner?
cakeorwine · 30/01/2022 20:35

Were you a miner

It must have taken a lot for people affected by the Tories and the pit closures to vote Tory in the last election.

I think that Johnson is going the wrong way about retaining that vote.

Clavinova · 30/01/2022 20:37

GreenLunchBox
And bleach poisonings spiked

And your link shows a big spike in March 2020 as well - the month before Trump's mutterings.

Clavinova · 30/01/2022 20:38

Of course Clavinova is a Trumpster

I can't stand him actually.

Peregrina · 30/01/2022 20:42

Were you a miner?

I am female and I don't think that women were sent down UK mines for a long long time now.

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