What about... Still enjoying Boris' downfall Part 4. The one with the report released?

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Part 4

@JaniieJones

'I am struggling to see how anyone who is patriotic can be a supporter of the current Prime Minister given how much damage he is and has done to the country'

Let me help. We have the most open society in Europe, no restrictions, we are coming out of the pandemic with more people in jobs than pre pandemic and with the strongest economy in the G7, vaccines etc etc etc... but you must know all this, surely?

A ten minute break in a office to have cake is not the outrageous event the media are telling you it is.

Reports lately have showed are aren't the strongest economy in Q4. We were Q1 and Q3 (iirc)

'Vaccines? 7 european countries are ahead of us per capita.'

Roll out. Fastest roll out in Europe. The article below explains why other places have now overtaken us but surely you can agree getting those first vaccines into the vulnerable swiftly was of vital importance?

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-why-has-the-uk-vaccine-rollout-slowed-and-which-countries-have-overtaken-it-12406903

'can you explain to me which parts of Boris' birthday party don't fit this definition' the bit where they're in an office at work for 10mins. We all know that does not constitute a party.

@merrymouse

So Starmer is prudent with his money. I like that in a leader, much better than having to scrabble around arranging favours for people in order to do a bit of redecoration.

Yes, it’s amazing that this is supposed to reflect badly on Starmer.

Starmer was able to buy grazing land so that his mother could have a donkey sanctuary.

Johnson spent £££ on wallpaper he couldn’t afford in temporary accommodation then had to scrabble around to pay the bill.

A random Lord to pay for the wallpaper. How embarrassing. He’s a 50 something old man who has to ask his mates to pay for his decor. It’s pathetic.

Plus what other favours does Boris owe?

@JaniieJones

'If having birthday parties is not outrageous, why were millions of children denied them?'

It wasn't a party. Kids were denied parties because there was a pandemic so socialising was restricted to reduce spread. Workplace reshrements were allowed..

Anyway I'm fascinated but your comment 'He has done so much damage to the country!'. Do you know we have more people in jobs than pre pandemic? That isn't ruining the country at all now is it?

But if children attended school together that was their "workplace".

They weren't allowed to meet elsewhere in the school (Eg library) with their grandparent and gasman for 10 minutes for cake.

@Peregrina

I still can't quite work out why Carrie Simmonds and Lulu Litle were doing in the Cabinet Office, because neither work there.

Having a cake - keep up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know it's so stupid isn't it. People tripping over themselves to convince us the personal employee and the spouse were in a a workplace for work and not for the birthday cake and nibbles 🤦🏼‍♀️

'A random Lord to pay for the wallpaper. How embarrassing.'

I must admit I'll agree with you there. Very cringeworthy and tone deaf to get an interior decorator and get such ott wallpaper. Just use M&S like the rest of us. Mind I bet the royals don't and no one bats an eye at their ostentatiousness.

@JaniieJones

'Vaccines? 7 european countries are ahead of us per capita.'

Roll out. Fastest roll out in Europe. The article below explains why other places have now overtaken us but surely you can agree getting those first vaccines into the vulnerable swiftly was of vital importance?

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-why-has-the-uk-vaccine-rollout-slowed-and-which-countries-have-overtaken-it-12406903

'can you explain to me which parts of Boris' birthday party don't fit this definition' the bit where they're in an office at work for 10mins. We all know that does not constitute a party.

If they worked in the Cabinet Room and/or that was their normal or necessary place to take their 'refreshments' then you may have a point.

It clearly wasn't though - it was a buffet, on the big table, in the big room, for a birthday. That's a social gathering that isn't reasonably necessary for work. Particularly when there are at least two people present who aren't there for work purposes.

Roll out. Fastest roll out in Europe. The article below explains why other places have now overtaken us but surely you can agree getting those first vaccines into the vulnerable swiftly was of vital importance?

It becomes a pointless claim when you don't keep it up in the longer term.

If a football team scores the first goal but the opposition then scores two, the opposition win the game. The first goal doesn't count for anything by the end of the match.

You are just spouting Tory propaganda stuff.... without looking at any of the claims.

It's worrying isn't it? It's concerning that if Boris keeps up his screaming pantomime of twisted facts enough people may start to believe his own hype

Minimise meetings was interpreted by No 10 as emailing people from a range of departments to gather in the Cabinet Office for M& S canapés. Event staff were present.
The party continued after he left.

Roll out. Fastest roll out in Europe. The article below explains why other places have now overtaken us but surely you can agree getting those first vaccines into the vulnerable swiftly was of vital importance?

I didn't say it wasn't, though with the highest death toll in Europe, one has to question where we went wrong?

'But if children attended school together that was their "workplace".

Yes and I'm sure they all sat together in the cafeteria didn't they?

@JaniieJones

'Vaccines? 7 european countries are ahead of us per capita.'

Roll out. Fastest roll out in Europe. The article below explains why other places have now overtaken us but surely you can agree getting those first vaccines into the vulnerable swiftly was of vital importance?

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-why-has-the-uk-vaccine-rollout-slowed-and-which-countries-have-overtaken-it-12406903

'can you explain to me which parts of Boris' birthday party don't fit this definition' the bit where they're in an office at work for 10mins. We all know that does not constitute a party.

Yeah it was of vital importance. We had the worst death rate of equal European countries to us.

We needed to do something because we weren't doing enough.

The fastest rollout alone hasn't been enough.

Words out of context won't convince people of a point because we can research the actual facts and stats.

This article in the Spectator is great if you fancy sine Schadenfreude tonight. Apologies if already posted

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-real-reason-boris-is-unfit-to-be-prime-minister

*some

@JaniieJones

'But if children attended school together that was their "workplace".

Yes and I'm sure they all sat together in the cafeteria didn't they?

No!!! Children stayed in class bubbles. They ate and played and learnt together in those keyworker bubbles.

Staffrooms were shut and staff ate and drank with their pupils in their class bubbles.

There was absolutely no meeting the headteachers spouse and the janitor in a room for cake. Not even for 10 minutes.

'I didn't say it wasn't, though with the highest death toll in Europe, one has to question where we went wrong?'

Well per million Belgium and Italy have the highest toll and at 2275 sad deaths per million we aren't much different to France and Spain.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We had the worst death rate of equal European countries to us Not Italy though

@JaniieJones

'But if children attended school together that was their "workplace".

Yes and I'm sure they all sat together in the cafeteria didn't they?

Yet no birthday parties!

Lots only eating packed lunches at their desks in their classrooms. Not allowed to mingle with other year groups - even when those year groups include their siblings.

Before they could go back to school not allowed to meet their friends outside because that would be more than 2 people - given parents had to chaperone.

But good old Boris and his birthday cake.

He’s a cunt

It also has a go at Nadine Dorries, the most useless politician of any country in the history of the world, ever.
Pity about them fanboying JRM though 🤮

civil service profligate catering

Some links here:

December 2007
Official figures show almost half a million pounds has been spent by government departments on Christmas festivities in the last five years.

And more than £125,000 of public money has been used for cards, parties and decorations at Whitehall parties in 2007 alone.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2007/12/22/whitehall-xmas-costs-revealed/

December 2008 - although partygoers paid £30 each for their ticket;

Whitehall mandarins in charge of saving Britain from the economic slump drank whisky and danced the night away at the Treasury on the day the recession was officially confirmed.

More than 100 civil servants who work for Scots-born Chancellor Alistair Darling took part in a Burns Night party at the Treasury.

They drank large quantities of white wine and whisky, ate haggis and danced until close to midnight, prompting complaints from other officials who were still hard at work trying to deal with the economic crisis.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127273/Knees-Treasury-Britain-plunges-recession.html

July 2009
Loosening our belts at the taxpayers' expense.

The season of drinks and lobby parties is a chance for Whitehall to keep its enemies in the press close – and for the PM's wife to Tweet about it all.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jul/09/bill-blanko-whitehall-summer-parties

spouses/partners in the workplace

September 2009
Sarah Brown, PM's wife, has increasing influence on UK politics.

Future MP? Gordon Brown's wife Sarah has an increasing influence over Downing Street affairs.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/sep/20/sarah-brown-fashion-charity-mp

Derxa posted some of Marina Hyde's 'family tree' on here the other day, supposedly proof that MH is too 'posh' to write a deleterious opinion piece about Bozo. Now Bozo's not posh? Derxa, do you have Bozo's family tree to hand? He's descended from more European aristocracy than you could number and is probably more connected than our royal family. Trampling on the proles for centuries; might be genetic.

I would love Johnson or his ministers to be asked what mistakes they think they made with the pandemic. You can look back at Hansard and see what was being called for at the time - and being ignored until much later.

All we hear is them saying 'On the big shots, he got things right'. That is arrogance. There are things that we don't know if he got right - and some are a matter of judgement.

Anyone watching Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out Of Road? at 6.45pm on C4?
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